Proper Camera for Daughter (turning 15)

Sinbad said:
Let her play around with the camera you have already for a bit.
In my experience, a lot of these hobbies are a rapidly passing phase. (/thinks back to drum kit, now donated to a school thank god)

If the interest continues then look at buying kit.
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this. will also maybe get her to work through a post like this: http://lifehacker.com/5815742/basics-of-photography-the-complete-guide and see where it takes her.

satanboy said:
PICS or gtfo



:p
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vokof. she's pretty. and you aint getting near her!
 
Sinbad said:
Got a speedlite II EX 430 already.
And some studio lights.
:D
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Nice

With all that gear why'd you give her such a crappy camera in the first place? :p
 
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bwana said:
Nice

With all the gear why'd you give her such a crappy camera in the first place? :p
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lol

I bought the 400D for myself back in 2004.

She started taking photos for the school she worked at, and battled a bit with certain stuff and started bemoaning her lack of knowledge about the camera etc. So i gave her the course, which just highlighted the shortcomings of the camera.

Her big problem was taking photos at events like prizegivings and assemblies, where the lighting was crap, she wasn't close to the subjects so flash was pointless, etc.

Anyway, while she was on the course, someone on our local community association forum advertised a bunch of photo kit for sale for really cheap, just wanted it out of their house as they had upgraded and it was taking up space, so picked up a nice camera bag, diffuser, bunch of filters, bunch of CF cards, wired remote, two studio lights with tripods and umbrellas, reflector, backdrop frame for R200.
 
BigAl-sa said:
Erm, no.

The 350d was released in Feb 2005 (I know, I bought mine in Apr 2005), the 400d was released in Aug 2006.
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Yes. I knew I bought it just before I changed jobs. Wrong job, sorry :)
 
Sinbad said:
lol

I bought the 400D for myself back in 2004.

She started taking photos for the school she worked at, and battled a bit with certain stuff and started bemoaning her lack of knowledge about the camera etc. So i gave her the course, which just highlighted the shortcomings of the camera.

Her big problem was taking photos at events like prizegivings and assemblies, where the lighting was crap, she wasn't close to the subjects so flash was pointless, etc.

Anyway, while she was on the course, someone on our local community association forum advertised a bunch of photo kit for sale for really cheap, just wanted it out of their house as they had upgraded and it was taking up space, so picked up a nice camera bag, diffuser, bunch of filters, bunch of CF cards, wired remote, two studio lights with tripods and umbrellas, reflector, backdrop frame for R200.
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Also keep in mind Apeture also plays a big part in low light conditions. I had a 350D (1600 max iso)+ kit lense 18-55mm and 70-300mm Sigma both with small apetures. After finally getting a 50mm 1.8 prime lense recently it opened up a whole new world of photography for me :)
 
mouks said:
Also keep in mind Apeture also plays a big part in low light conditions. I had a 350D (1600 max iso)+ kit lense 18-55mm and 70-300mm Sigma both with small apetures. After finally getting a 50mm 1.8 prime lense recently it opened up a whole new world of photography for me :)
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Yeah we have a nifty fifty as well. But it has limited application when subject is a bit further away ;)
 
Her big problem was taking photos at events like prizegivings and assemblies, where the lighting was crap, she wasn't close to the subjects so flash was pointless, etc.
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Easy peasy to do... but again, you need to know how to use your camera.
 
I say let her make do with what she has now, too many people put too much emphasis on the gear and not enough on their own limitations. I know one, Canon 60D and 100mm f/2.8 macro lens (among others) being held back by his gear but he's never viewed any of his pictures anywhere other than the LCD on the back of the camera - his memory card has thousands of low res JPEGs that have never been viewed on a computer but the gear is holding him back.

You say you're looking at the 70D, but which lens are you looking at? The 70D with crappy kit lens will cost about as much as a 700D with some decent glass. This could be a pretty neat setup:

Canon 700D R 5,595
Canon 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 R 3,095
Canon 24mmf/2.8 R 1,495
Canon 50mm f/1.8 R 1,195
Tamron 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS R 4,695

That gives her pretty much everything she needs from 10-300mm including a fairly fast, widish prime, a fast prime, an ultra wide angle and a telephoto for R 16,075 - not much more than the 70D with crappy 18-55 f/3.5-5.6. It'll be a setup to make more than just a few people rather jealous.
 
[XC] Oj101;15486428 said:
You say you're looking at the 70D, but which lens are you looking at? The 70D with crappy kit lens will cost about as much as a 700D with some decent glass. This could be a pretty neat setup:
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I didn't want to waste this special post, but nowhere can I see that Fanie has mentioned the 70d. I still maintain that a bridge camera would be the best for the poppie.
 
faniedry said:
What is a bridge camera?
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It's a camera where you can control all the settings, with a fixed largish range lens. I will have a look at what's available tomorrow and let you know what looks like a good deal. You don't want to fork out a fortune for a fad. If your poppie enjoys it, she will probably make enough money to buy her own dslr.
 
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