Protein Supplements

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ya, USN is crap. its only the most popular here in Sa because it has the best marketing campaign behind it and its a bit cheaper than the other stuff. also, most people believe its cheaper because its local where in actual fact its cheaper because it's crap.
EVOX or BSN ftw!
(BSN's "N.O. Explode" and EVOX protein got me to gain 6kg's and stay at 11% body fat in a little over a month)
 
nivek said:
biogen is usn with another label dont waste your money

dischem sells evox.. biogen too if you still want to go that route
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Do you really think so nivek? have a look at the biogen label and compare it to usn. beter amino acid profile, lower in fat and carbs, thats to say for the whey protein. I think Biogen is very good
 
frankp said:
Do you really think so nivek? have a look at the biogen label and compare it to usn. beter amino acid profile, lower in fat and carbs, thats to say for the whey protein. I think Biogen is very good
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While you're looking at the label compare their contact address, and when you're done with that, look up the company registration information
:) both their domain and their registration number

Or you could just have a look at the domain WHOIS for both companies

http://co.za/cgi-bin/whois.sh?Domain=biogen
http://co.za/cgi-bin/whois.sh?Domain=usn

Wonder why they have the same network administrator who also just happens to be a director
 
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I'd love to see an independent lab analysis done on ANY current SA manufactured protein or nutrient supplement to see if the claimed contents actually match those the label. There's NO controls here like those in the US.
It's the fricken wild west.
 
nivek said:
While you're looking at the label compare their contact address, and when you're done with that, look up the company registration information
:) both their domain and their registration number

Or you could just have a look at the domain WHOIS for both companies

http://co.za/cgi-bin/whois.sh?Domain=biogen
http://co.za/cgi-bin/whois.sh?Domain=usn

Wonder why they have the same network administrator who also just happens to be a director
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how did you retrieve this info Nivek? what exactly am i looking at? under admin it lists Mr Piperakis, Manoli as the person but what exactly does that tell you?
 
It tells you that they are the same company
 
onebrickshort said:
I'd love to see an independent lab analysis done on ANY current SA manufactured protein or nutrient supplement to see if the claimed contents actually match those the label. There's NO controls here like those in the US.
It's the fricken wild west.
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thats why i stick with Muscletech ...
 
CaTcH21 said:
thats why i stick with Muscletech ...
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Dude, lol, Muscletech is exactly the kind of shyte i cant afford. but i love them. they know there research and mr cutler is also under their name. good stuff. i used the celltech a few times. good stuff hey.
 
frankp said:
Dude, lol, Muscletech is exactly the kind of shyte i cant afford. but i love them. they know there research and mr cutler is also under their name. good stuff. i used the celltech a few times. good stuff hey.
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yeah, sorry i forgot you mentioned that you looking to spend less on good supplements. As some suggested , try Evox. Marco Rossi suggests it, so it cant be an inferior product. i tried the 5XL Muscle Meal, the chocolate flavour is very tasty.
 
CaTcH21 said:
try Evox. Marco Rossi suggests it, so it cant be an inferior product.
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Marco Rossi was an Italian-American pornographic actor who appeared in gay pornographic movies and magazines in the 1990s. He also toured the US widely as a stripper in gay night clubs, and appeared as a model in bodybuilding and fitness magazines. He acted in a stage play, "All-Male Peep Show", by director Ronnie Larsen.
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:D

Here's something you need to understand. Evoxxx pay Rossi to make their products superior as opposed to inferior. All companies do it. Product Endorsement. 21st century snake oil salesmen under a different name. Doesn't necessarily mean he personally uses the product...
 
onebrickshort said:
:D

Here's something you need to understand. Evoxxx pay Rossi to make their products superior as opposed to inferior. All companies do it. Product Endorsement. 21st century snake oil salesmen under a different name. Doesn't necessarily mean he personally uses the product...
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thats true, and can be said for any brand. Marco Rossi is not a BS'er , he is a genuine guy (what he did above does not relate to Body Building, MR is a world champ). BTW, whats the worst that can happen, if the supplement doesnt work, dont use it again. Trial and error ...
 
CaTcH21 said:
genuine guy ...
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Genuine Bodybuilders use Steroids at some point. There's just no natural way to get that huge no matter how much protein you drown in.
In any case, overuse of crap Protein will pack up your kidneys and Steroids will stuff up your liver amongst other things. Mmmmm. Lovely.
If you're serious about nutrient quality- seek out the best whatever the cost-and sacrifice something else instead to pay for it.
 
onebrickshort said:
Genuine Bodybuilders use Steroids at some point. There's just no natural way to get that huge no matter how much protein you drown in.
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that is an ignorant comment, you have no idea what you talking about.
onebrickshort said:
In any case, overuse of crap Protein will pack up your kidneys and Steroids will stuff up your liver amongst other things. Mmmmm. Lovely.
If you're serious about nutrient quality- seek out the best whatever the cost-and sacrifice something else instead to pay for it.
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and what is crap protein and what is the best ?
 
CaTcH21 said:
that is an ignorant comment, you have no idea what you talking about.


and what is crap protein and what is the best ?
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Hmm.. the best? Universal ISOWhey.. Good luck buying it tho.. Dischem stocks it but its incredibly expensive :)
 
onebrickshort said:
You're right. Actually I haven't a clue. Mind, I haven't met a bodybuilder who hasn't had a little of the old jab juice now and then.
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Which bodybuilders you referring to ? give me names ....

You didnt answer my questions, what is crap and what is the best (nutrients) ?
 
nivek said:
Hmm.. the best? Universal ISOWhey.. Good luck buying it tho.. Dischem stocks it but its incredibly expensive :)
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i was actually asking that guy cos i wanted to see what exactly he knows.
 
onebrickshort said:
He knows that if you have to ask how much something really good costs, You can't afford it ;)
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you need specs ? i didnt ask for pricing, just wanted to know what you 'think' is good and bad nutrients ? dont avoid the questions with stupid comments.
 
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