Protests in Hungary

NarrowBandFtw said:
the Kiev Independent can be safely ignored on all matters though
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Poor failed attempt from a Russian simp. Is Vance not in Hungary as reported by Kyiv Independent, proof that this is an imposter then.

 
w1z4rd said:
Do you ever respond without an ad hominin?
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of course, except when people literally quote from completely laughable propaganda outlets, then they need a reminder not to do so

merely playing the same game as everyone else, whenever I share an RT or ZeroHedge article the odds are about 90% that some twit is going to question the sources without even looking at it, so that's how it is and it cuts both ways
 
sefeddt said:
Poor failed attempt from a Russian simp. Is Vance not in Hungary as reported by Kyiv Independent, proof that this is an imposter then.

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I made no comment on what your BS source reported, I commented that a BS source should not be used

even a broken clock is right twice a day
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
I made no comment on what your BS source reported, I commented that a BS source should not be used

even a broken clock is right twice a day
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Nah, just expected Russian propaganda from Russian simp.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
of course, except when people literally quote from completely laughable propaganda outlets, then they need a reminder not to do so

merely playing the same game as everyone else, whenever I share an RT or ZeroHedge article the odds are about 90% that some twit is going to question the sources without even looking at it, so that's how it is and it cuts both ways
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My first choice would have to been RT (state sponsored and controlled) but I could not find any reports on Vance's visit so I went with the more credible Kyiv Independent. :ROFL:
 
LoL :ROFL:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2041548219432546384

Vance accused the European Union of electoral interference in Hungary’s election campaign during a visit to Budapest. Speaking alongside Orbán, Vance described the Hungarian leader as a “role model” for Europe.​


www.euronews.com

US VP Vance attacks Brussels and vows to help Orbán after meeting

Vance accused the European Union of electoral interference in Hungary’s election campaign during a visit to Budapest. Speaking alongside Orbán, Vance described the Hungarian leader as a “role model” for Europe. #EuropeNews
www.euronews.com www.euronews.com
 
The usual actors.
thegrayzone.com

EU official plotted to ‘organise resistance’ against Hungary’s Orban, files show - The Grayzone

As the EU has sought to prolong the Ukraine proxy war, expropriate frozen Russian assets, and enlarge the bloc at any cost, Viktor Orban’s Hungary opposed it at every turn. Now, with his support teetering, leaked documents reveal a major EU official plotted a long-term covert campaign to oust...
thegrayzone.com thegrayzone.com
Participating in the “ad hoc coordination forum” were a variety of NGOs, many of which have been acccused of receiving funds from George Soros’ Open Society Foundations. OSF relocated its Hungarian office to Berlin in April 2018, due to Orban’s government undertaking numerous measures to curb the activities and influence of foreign-financed NGOs locally. OSF activities in Budapest have been a closely-guarded secret ever since. Nonetheless, the most recent available figures indicate Soros’ personal regime change operation pumped $8.9 million into Hungary in 2021 alone.
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The senior EU functionary concluded by suggesting his proposed organization would ultimately morph into a shadow government that could seize power from the Hungarian president. “In the longer run, the proposed non-profit entity could also… develop the policy foundations (and shadow cabinet) of a united political front against the Orban regime.”
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In March 2024, a little-known figure named Peter Magyar exploded onto Budapest’s political scene when he released secret recordings of his ex-wife, former Justice Minister Judit Varga, revealing that senior government figures attempted to sabotage the prosecution of a state official for corruption. Varga had resigned the previous month along with Hungarian President Katalin Novak, for signing off on the pardon of the deputy director of an orphanage who was implicated in covering up pedophilia.
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Immediately after Magyar assumed leadership over Tisza, he barnstormed through towns and villages across the country. The spectacular campaign often saw him addressing crowds from large stages featuring concert-ready audio equipment, along with videographers and professional security. Magyar has also been supported by highly sophisticated PR and social media efforts, as well as a liberal-leaning local mainstream media ecosystem which seems increasingly desperate to market him to right-wing voters. In 2024, Hungarian academic Zsolt Enyedi published a typical profile of Magyar’s party, marvelling at Tisza’s “meteoric” and “unprecedented” rise, while acknowledging that its “ideological profile” is “amorphous” – which is quite an understatement.
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These revelations have fallen almost entirely on deaf ears, however, while Magyar’s star has grown inexorably. Magyar became chief of the Tisza (Respect and Freedom) party almost overnight, and was immediately bestowed the title of “opposition leader” by mainstream media. While founded in 2020, Tisza had not previously competed in any elections or ever publicly campaigned. However, in the June 2024 European parliament election, Tisza garnered almost 30% of the vote, and seven seats. Today, the party enjoys a significant lead over Orban’s Fidesz in many national opinion polls.
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wingnut771 said:
What is he supposed to say when Russia invaded Ukraine?
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Start of the conflict many other countries were in the same position, they moved away while Hungary made no such attempt, Orban was and is a Russian puppet. For you to raise the point say's it all. Hungary has been offered on numerous occasions alternatives but declined.

The European Union is rapidly severing energy ties with Russia following the 2022 Ukraine invasion, reducing Russian gas reliance from 45% of imports to approximately 13% by mid-2025. Driven by the REPowerEU plan, the EU aims for a total phase-out of Russian gas and oil by 2027, transitioning to alternative suppliers, renewables, and increased energy efficiency, despite some opposition from countries like Hungary and Slovakia
 
sefeddt said:
Start of the conflict many other countries were in the same position, they moved away while Hungary made no such attempt, Orban was and is a Russian puppet. For you to raise the point say's it all. Hungary has been offered on numerous occasions alternatives but declined.

The European Union is rapidly severing energy ties with Russia following the 2022 Ukraine invasion, reducing Russian gas reliance from 45% of imports to approximately 13% by mid-2025. Driven by the REPowerEU plan, the EU aims for a total phase-out of Russian gas and oil by 2027, transitioning to alternative suppliers, renewables, and increased energy efficiency, despite some opposition from countries like Hungary and Slovakia
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The EU is also fining Hungary 1m euros a day. Where was the EU when they invaded Crimea?
 
wingnut771 said:
The EU is also fining Hungary 1m euros a day. Where was the EU when they invaded Crimea?
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EU was weak no one is disputing that, but that's whataboutism, if you want to go down that rabbit hole the EU were not part of the Budapest memorandum guaranteeing Ukraine's sovereignty the US was. . You not answering why Hungary did not wean themselves off Russia like other EU countries that finance Russia's war machine and why they rejected other suggestions. Hungary has one of the largest differences in contributions vs beneficiaries in EU, much like our own government which has its hand out for donations while raging at countries providing it.
 
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sefeddt said:
EU was weak no one is disputing that, but that's whataboutism, if you want to go down that rabbit hole the EU were not part of the Budapest memorandum guaranteeing Ukraine's sovereignty the US was. . You not answering why Hungary did not wean themselves off Russia like other EU countries that finance Russia's war machine and why they rejected other suggestions. Hungary has one of the largest differences in contributions vs beneficiaries in EU, much like our own government which has its hand out for donations while raging at countries providing it.
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Where does EU get their oil from? Im just proud that Hungary is standing their ground on the open border kak and it’s cheaper to pay the fines than pay hotel bills.
 
wingnut771 said:
Where does EU get their oil from? Im just proud that Hungary is standing their ground on the open border kak and it’s cheaper to pay the fines than pay hotel bills.
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Use google for search, you going in circles not addressing my points. Odd how countries with much bigger contributions than beneficiaries like France, Germany etc have to subsidize Hungary.
 
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wingnut771 said:
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The word you looking for is corruption. Appears you cherry picked as the reason below is well documented but then Pro Russian propagandists know this . Why should top contributing countries like France and Germany pay to fund corruption.

The European Union continues to freeze approximately €20 billion in funds for Hungary, citing ongoing rule-of-law violations, corruption, and failure to implement required legal reforms. While some funds were briefly unfrozen in 2023, EU courts are currently reviewing that decision, and substantial payments remain suspended ahead of April 2026, leading to domestic infrastructure delays

Denmark, Finland, and Luxembourg are the least corrupt EU nations, while Hungary and Bulgaria are the most corrupt according to the 2025 Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI).
 
sefeddt said:
The word you looking for is corruption. Appears you cherry picked as the reason below is well documented but then Pro Russian propagandists know this . Why should top contributing countries like France and Germany pay to fund corruption.

The European Union continues to freeze approximately €20 billion in funds for Hungary, citing ongoing rule-of-law violations, corruption, and failure to implement required legal reforms. While some funds were briefly unfrozen in 2023, EU courts are currently reviewing that decision, and substantial payments remain suspended ahead of April 2026, leading to domestic infrastructure delays

Denmark, Finland, and Luxembourg are the least corrupt EU nations, while Hungary and Bulgaria are the most corrupt according to the 2025 Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI).
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Does legal reforms mean open borders?
 
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