PS3 launch date ??

There is also the question of who cares?.. and who in their right mind can afford one of them?
 
ToxicBunny : Well, since the main focus of the console is HD, I'm guessing the R6300 pricetag isn't too bad for people buying TV's that cost R20 000 (720p) and R100 000 (1080p)
 
JStrike : and the XBox360 which is HD as well and roughly half the price?
 
Granted... but personally I'd rather buy a blu-ray player at some point in the future, when blu-ray disks are readily available... DVD will hold sway for at least 2 or 3 years I reckon.....

Atm at least, I just think there are better games on the xbox as well.
 
Yup... thats why me.. I'm happy with my 360... I can choose whichever disk becomes the standard.. and then buy the right drive for it.
 
ToxicBunny : I have a 360. It isn't nearly as HD focused as the PS3. The 360 doesn't come with a HD-DVD drive. The PS3 comes with Blue-Ray. The 360 only got 1080p through a software update. All games will continue to be 720p. The PS3 does 1080p standard
 
JStrike : You should do your research... If anything the 360 is MORE HD focused than the PS3. The 360 has a hardware scalar, whereas Sony are trying to stop their developers using whatever scalar is in the PS3. the ps3 has NO games in 1080p at this point in time, and there is some serious doubt whether any will be released in 1080p.... the 360 does have one or two games in pipeline that support 1080p.

Both machines have their pros and cons, but at this moment in time, the 360 has the edge in the market.

As for the issue of the HD-DVD drive and the blu-ray... tbh, from what I'm hearing from developers most of them are NOT stoked about the blu-ray issue, because the drive is slower, they can't compress the data onto the disk etc etc etc.... Plus of course Blu-ray isn't the defacto standard yet, so you're spending R5-R6k on a machine that uses a disc that MAY be obselete very soon. I think MS played it right by not forcing that choice on consumers.
 
As for the issue of the HD-DVD drive and the blu-ray... tbh, from what I'm hearing from developers most of them are NOT stoked about the blu-ray issue, because the drive is slower, they can't compress the data onto the disk etc etc etc.... Plus of course Blu-ray isn't the defacto standard yet, so you're spending R5-R6k on a machine that uses a disc that MAY be obselete very soon. I think MS played it right by not forcing that choice on consumers.

I think the PS3 is a large part of Sony's strategy in attempting to make Blu-ray the de facto standard.
 
Oh I definately think it is... but its a risky strategy atm... The PS3 is taking a bollocking in the press and at the stores.... so yeah...
 
tibby : fair enough.. but why the hell not have it enabled from the start? and iirc it doesn't happen automatically.. the developers have to code the support for it, so games released before this update, will still not be able to use the scalar.
 
Oh I definately think it is... but its a risky strategy atm... The PS3 is taking a bollocking in the press and at the stores.... so yeah...

Yeah, I remember reading Sony's actually making a loss on each PS3 unit, at least in the beginning, should get better once manufacturing volumes increase but still, they'd only do that if they're hoping to make the money back later from Blu-ray.
 
tibby : and thats something to be even vaguely proud of?... they've had as long as MS to develop the console and they're more than a year behind them?... doesn't that smack of something going SERIOUSLY wrong?

Sony just seem to have made some REALLY bad design decisions with the PS3, and now they're trying to patch their way around them...
 
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