Pupils 'burn down Durban school' after getting 'bad marks'

Techne

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Some say education will fix all problems...
Then this comes along just to demonstrate that there really are some problems that education cannot fix.
 

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Was just reading a first year's email chain from a lecturer asking me on advice on how to handle it, student had plagiarized so he gave 0, and the student complained. After replying to the student that it's suspected plagiarism and that if they wanted to take it further then he'd have to pass it to higher ups, the student just writes this page long story about how they pray to god for forgiveness and that god should give the lecturer the compassion in his heart to forgive, etc. and allow rewrite. I just went wtf and said he should let 0 stand and if any issue just pass up chain as is protocol.

You find so many of these students plagiarize like mad and expect to get away with it, because their high school teachers never did any checks, and if they do certificates government/technikons at the higher certificate level basically avoid assessments so they don't increase the failure rate above the large percentage it already is.

This still happens at Btech as well, of the say 50 students, 20 come from TVET (non academic background), and pretty much all of them fail/get thrown out by the half year, and I know in my year at least 8 of them committed plagiarism if they bothered to hand anything in. It's messed up that Btech has to accept TVET students when diploma should have already filtered them, but government policies. And then in Bsc it's the same as diploma, you have your quotas, which basically deny other students that would not have wasted the resources because "they're privileged". Tertiary education is not a right, and government should not be using quotas, instead there should be a merit system , those from low socio-economic backgrounds that do well should have the full thing paid as long as subjects are passed, and if marks are not high enough to get in, design other programs that deal with teaching and assessing the required knowledge, rather than wasting needed academic skills, no need to have the student present before they got through a communications class because whatever they present is probably garbage (I remember the rainbow background presentations text with reverse rainbow of first year, those were horrendous).

Dream on... That's "Affirmative Action" for you right there. #EnjoyTheRide
 
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There is a segment of SA society that genuinely believes that protests like these can be used to "fix" any uncomfortable or disagreeable situation they find themselves in.

Really sad and immature behaviour, pointless to the extreme and considering how many uncomfortable and disagreeable situations our current overlords keep putting us into protests like these are going to increase not decrease. Ominous.
 

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After replying to the student that it's suspected plagiarism and that if they wanted to take it further then he'd have to pass it to higher ups, the student just writes this page long story about how they pray to god for forgiveness and that god should give the lecturer the compassion in his heart to forgive, etc. and allow rewrite.

the matter went higher up - god was not interested in the story
 

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How are they going to end up at university when they are getting bad marks at school?

Money and favours to the admissions office. Lecturers don't usually have any involvement in admitting students except maybe for special cases like waiving subject pre-requisites.

There is a segment of SA society that genuinely believes that protests like these can be used to "fix" any uncomfortable or disagreeable situation they find themselves in.

Really sad and immature behaviour, pointless to the extreme and considering how many uncomfortable and disagreeable situations our current overlords keep putting us into protests like these are going to increase not decrease. Ominous.

Unfortunately burning things has a proven track record of getting the required attention and things done, the bigger and more numerous the better.
 

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You see this mentality time and time again. It really is sad. Bad marks, let's burn the school so nobody can go to school. Then everyone will have bad marks. Great plan!

Honestly, the pure stupidity here is so shocking. How can people be so stupid and destructive. How does SA solve this crisis?
 
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Yeah... With shocking marks... Usually into the BA spaces with a few in others. I think the only place that avoids it largely is medical school but even then the entrance requirements are not identical and there are quotas to achieve.

Can't get into university to do medical. My friends daughter got a scholarship to study in USA after being refused entrance at local universities.
 

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Ok I will do it then...

Why do black people always destroy things when **** doesn't go there way?
Is there a cultural basis for this behaviour?
Somebody please explain this. Any blacks on this forum want to try?

Not black, but i`ll give it a shot.
Don't think it's cultural, it's a tantrum against a government that coddles you, patronizes you and treats you like a child, Politicians telling you you're always right. Everything bad that happens to you is the fault of those "others" because you are perpetually being discriminated against by the omnipresent racists.
I believe in any group that grew up being told all that their whole lives, there would be some that has no concept of personal responsibility.
 
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