Pupils 'burn down Durban school' after getting 'bad marks'

[thestaggy]

South Africa in a nutshell these days.

 

[Binary_Bark]

 

[Anti-Chris]

How are we raising our children? Are we raising them to take responsibility for their own actions and accept the consequences of their own actions, whether it is good or bad?
My daughter (Gr9) failed maths miserably the first quarter this year, got 23%... Grade average was something like 40%...
Standing in the que waiting to see her maths teacher, I listened to the other parents talking... The majority of them blamed the teacher for their kids failing and this is where the problem starts...
I spoke to the teacher and asked her advice on how I can get my daughter to pass maths this year. She suggested extra classes and extra work... We did as she suggested and I am happy to say that my daughter passed maths(40%) this year.
We are raising our kids to blame someone else for their shortcomings. We should raise them to firstly, look at themselves and only when they are 100% confident that they have done everything they could, then they can look for the problem elsewhere.
It is just too easy to blame someone else... I cant find work because the government has anti-white policies, I am living in poverty because of white monopoly capital, I am struggling to make ends meet due to Apartheid, I dont have a decent education because of the Bantu education system etc. etc. etc.... Our kids sees this and we are surprised when they burn down a school because their results are poor?

 

[Polymathic]

Government is to blame for this.

If I remember correctly the first school that was burnt down where by parents protesting about service delivery and they faced no real punishment.

Other people started emulated this and faced no real punishment, fast forward today burning schools down is now acceptable form of protest.

 

[Slootvreter]

This is the peasantry that is our future. Back to dusty Africa we go.

 

[Slootvreter]

Kids are called idiots but politicians are allowed to do the same thing but are called "Honourable" in Parliament.

Neither of the two seem to suffer any real consequence.

 

[rietrot]

Useless school is useless in anyway. Send the kids home to go and play in the dirt, make more kids, beg and steal.

 

[TheChamp]

Government is to blame for this.

If I remember correctly the first school that was burnt down where by parents protesting about service delivery and they faced no real punishment.

Other people started emulated this and faced no real punishment, fast forward today burning schools down is now acceptable form of protest.

Have you followed the stories through to know if the charges were dropped or you just assume that because you see nothing on the news?

 

[noxibox]

This lesson will serve them well for a future in SA. Tick list for things to take to school/work 1) Wallet 2) Cellphone 3) Bag 4) Lunch 5) Bottle of petrol. All set for the day! They learnt from their parents how things are done

And how are they going to light that petrol? I give this bag packing a failing grade.

How are we raising our children? Are we raising them to take responsibility for their own actions and accept the consequences of their own actions, whether it is good or bad?
My daughter (Gr9) failed maths miserably the first quarter this year, got 23%... Grade average was something like 40%...
Standing in the que waiting to see her maths teacher, I listened to the other parents talking... The majority of them blamed the teacher for their kids failing and this is where the problem starts...
I spoke to the teacher and asked her advice on how I can get my daughter to pass maths this year. She suggested extra classes and extra work... We did as she suggested and I am happy to say that my daughter passed maths(40%) this year.

Honestly from your story it could well be the teacher's fault. There are bad teachers. That your daughter did better with extra classes doesn't prove the problem was with the child. I've experienced bad teachers and lazy teachers. Amongst the bad were even some who were really keen on being teachers and I think tried really hard, but were fundamentally terrible at it. In a subject like mathematics poor teachers can be devastating, and not everyone has the resources to mitigate the problem.

We are raising our kids to blame someone else for their shortcomings. We should raise them to firstly, look at themselves and only when they are 100% confident that they have done everything they could, then they can look for the problem elsewhere.
It is just too easy to blame someone else... I cant find work because the government has anti-white policies, I am living in poverty because of white monopoly capital, I am struggling to make ends meet due to Apartheid, I dont have a decent education because of the Bantu education system etc. etc. etc.... Our kids sees this and we are surprised when they burn down a school because their results are poor?

In principle I agree, but you have to equally be careful about encouraging children to blame themselves. Some parents do go to the other extreme. In previous generations the default was to blame the child and not even consider that the failing might be elsewhere.

But regardless simply blaming others does not lead to burning down schools.

 

[noxibox]

Ok I will do it then...

Why do black people always destroy things when **** doesn't go there way?
Is there a cultural basis for this behaviour?
Somebody please explain this. Any blacks on this forum want to try?

How would anyone explain something that isn't true?

There is a segment of SA society that genuinely believes that protests like these can be used to "fix" any uncomfortable or disagreeable situation they find themselves in.

Really sad and immature behaviour, pointless to the extreme and considering how many uncomfortable and disagreeable situations our current overlords keep putting us into protests like these are going to increase not decrease. Ominous.

This kind of thing unfortunately became ingrained over many years of protests. Prior to the campaign to destroy government infrastructure in an attempt to make the country ungovernable protests did not generally involve destruction of property.

 

[BeerIsNotGood...]

Our future politicians and policy makers.

Need Schools for that

 

[Supervan II]

Unfortunately burning things has a proven track record of getting the required attention and things done, the bigger and more numerous the better.

Yup. Monkey see, monkey do - and they have a perfect example to follow as set by their very own parents, no?

 

[Polymathic]

Have you followed the stories through to know if the charges were dropped or you just assume that because you see nothing on the news?

There was no popular News on people getting prosecuted, so even if some people did get charged that did not enter the popular conciseness. Police don't generally do much when it comes to mob justice in this country anyway.

 

[TheChamp]

There was no popular News on people getting prosecuted, so even if some people did get charged that did not enter the popular conciseness. Police don't generally do much when it comes to mob justice in this country anyway.

You should know by now that the media loses interest as soon as the story gets cold and move onto something else. There is no space for some unknown people in Vuwani if you can report on the various EFF court cases.

 

[Polymathic]

How are we raising our children? Are we raising them to take responsibility for their own actions and accept the consequences of their own actions, whether it is good or bad?
My daughter (Gr9) failed maths miserably the first quarter this year, got 23%... Grade average was something like 40%...
Standing in the que waiting to see her maths teacher, I listened to the other parents talking... The majority of them blamed the teacher for their kids failing and this is where the problem starts...
I spoke to the teacher and asked her advice on how I can get my daughter to pass maths this year. She suggested extra classes and extra work... We did as she suggested and I am happy to say that my daughter passed maths(40%) this year.
We are raising our kids to blame someone else for their shortcomings. We should raise them to firstly, look at themselves and only when they are 100% confident that they have done everything they could, then they can look for the problem elsewhere.
It is just too easy to blame someone else... I cant find work because the government has anti-white policies, I am living in poverty because of white monopoly capital, I am struggling to make ends meet due to Apartheid, I dont have a decent education because of the Bantu education system etc. etc. etc.... Our kids sees this and we are surprised when they burn down a school because their results are poor?

Another thing to consider is the amount of students who "passed" Matric with grades so low they cannot get into any institution to further their studies and also are unhireable in the job market. Basically making a matric worthless.

For many it changed the school from being a place to educate a child to a place where you are legally required to send your child for a minimum of 12 years so you child can have a worthless piece of paper.

The Education system has devalued the entire institution of primary education

 

[access]

we always freak out about politicians wasting money.

i wonder how much money the public has wasted, schools, libraries, clinics, shops, trucks, blablabla, its actually ridiculous.

 

[My_King]

Verwoerd said it was pointless to teach these people. Now they are trying their best to prove him right.

Most of the old folk were proven right even to this day

 

[notinterested]

Guys let's also remember that there're many township and rural schools with very hardworking and dedicated people who achieve great things with the little they they have.

These hooligans are not representative of SA school children. I used to work in a township. There were schools there that used to have kids with multiple distinctions making it through every year. They were certainly disadvantaged because of their crappy schools but they just got on with it and did well. Very strict principals and teachers who make a massive effort definitely help too.

It's not all doom and gloom.

 

[TheChamp]

Guys let's also remember that there're many township and rural schools with very hardworking and dedicated people who achieve great things with the little they they have.

These hooligans are not representative of SA school children. I used to work in a township. There were schools there that used to have kids with multiple distinctions making it through every year. They were certainly disadvantaged because of their crappy schools but they just got on with it and did well. Very strict principals and teachers who make a massive effort definitely help too.

It's not all doom and gloom.

Preaching to the wrong crowd here my friend, you know that when people are going out of their way to try give credence to Verwoerd silly ramblings.

 

[access]

Preaching to the wrong crowd here my friend, you know that when people are going out of their way to try give credence to Verwoerd silly ramblings.

thing is people were told they are racists for saying things are going to end up like this and that. old angry racists.

but in reality, lots of those occurrences have and are happening.

its a sad irony