Pupils migrate to better provinces

[LazyLion]

A total of 153,392 school-aged children left the Eastern Cape, the Free State, Limpopo, and the North West between 2001 and 2007, the SA Institute of Race Relations said on Tuesday.

"But only 90,998 moved into those provinces," SAIRR researcher Thuthukani Ndebele said in a statement.

"The data, sourced from an answer by the minister of basic education to a parliamentary query, also revealed that Gauteng and the Western Cape were the preferred destinations of school children as they experienced net in-migration of 64,313 and 22,268 respectively," said Ndebele.

The migration was of school children aged between six and 18.

"The Eastern Cape had total school-age out-migration of 55,963. Only 24,045... migrants moved to the province, resulting in net out-migration of 31,918, the highest in the country," he said in a statement.

Limpopo reported 46,114 school migrants leaving and 20,657 moving into the province.

"The Eastern Cape and Limpopo in particular, have limited resources and poor infrastructure, resulting in migrants searching for better educational opportunities in provinces such as Gauteng and the Western Cape."

The Free State recorded 1657 pupils leaving the province, and the North West 3362.


Source : Sapa /mar/jk/rod
Date : 18 Mar 2014 11:46

 

[LazyLion]

More refugees.... :wtf:

 

[majestic13]

More refugees.... :wtf:

 

[w1z4rd]

So sad.

 

[rza]

I don't see how this stats have anything to do with education. It's a known fact that people leave rural areas for cities to look for better jobs, and our two biggest cities are JHB and CPT, and it has nothing to do with education. This is a classic example of bad use of stats.

 

[w1z4rd]

I don't see how [-]this[/-] these stats have anything to do with education.

I do not think you are our resident expert on basic education

 

[rza]

I do not think you are our resident expert on basic education

No I'm not, but pupils don't leave their homes for better schools, instead they move with their parents who are looking for better jobs and lives. We should stop accepting any kind of information just because it comes from "experts". The "experts" are lazy on this occassion.

 

[Bernie]

Last year we sponsored a learner from EC to come to school here in Gauteng. Whats happening there should be a human rights abuse. The kids there are not getting any decent education. And no, she was not looking for a job rza.

 

[Nick333]

Hate to keep agreeing with rza but, seeing as we can assume that many pupils change provinces because their parents move for work and there is no mention of what % of pupils moved explicitly for the sake of a better education, it's safe to say this is a BS article.

 

[rza]

Last year we sponsored a learner from EC to come to school here in Gauteng. Whats happening there should be a human rights abuse. The kids there are not getting any decent education. And no, she was not looking for a job rza.

Urban migration happens everywhere in the world, and the main reason for it is jobs, not necessarily education. So it's wrong to use stats that supports urban migration for adults who have children to suggest that pupils (on their own) leave their provinces to move to Gauteng and WC for education purposes. It's a bad use of stats, and the "experts" should be ashamed of themselves. It's even wrong to use an exception to justify the normality.

 

[Nick333]

Last year we sponsored a learner from EC to come to school here in Gauteng. Whats happening there should be a human rights abuse. The kids there are not getting any decent education. And no, she was not looking for a job rza.

Your one anecdote doesn't suggest that the majority of the 150 000 odd pupils who left poorer provinces did so explicitly for a better education.

 

[w1z4rd]

I know many Eastern Cape mothers, take a taxi to the Western Cape just to be able to give birth in a better hospital. They then return back to the Eastern Cape.

 

[Messugga]

Last year we sponsored a learner from EC to come to school here in Gauteng. Whats happening there should be a human rights abuse. The kids there are not getting any decent education. And no, she was not looking for a job rza.

So we'll just ignore these stats, shall we? Write them off as a coincidence and move on?

rza is right about this. Kids move as a result of parents looking for better work in the economic hubs of the country. I'm not saying that education doesn't play at least some role in the movement of people, but I doubt that it's of primary concern to people who count their pennies or are struggling to scrape by (the majority of SA citizens).

 

[Fulcrum29]

The ever lasting migration

 

[w1z4rd]

The ever lasting migration

Yeah, people moving from the **** run areas, to the better run areas. Eastern Cape needs to build its infrastructure and keep people in province. Im tired of being referred to as a labour reserve.

 

[Nick333]

I know many Eastern Cape mothers, take a taxi to the Western Cape just to be able to give birth in a better hospital. They then return back to the Eastern Cape.

Kind of a meaningless thing to say. Are women from Port Elizabeth catching taxis to Cape Town? I sort of doubt it because I somehow doubt the PE public hospitals are that much worse than anywhere else. Or, are women from rural areas with ****ty infrastructure going to the closest more developed areas some of which happen to be in another province?

 

[w1z4rd]

Kind of a meaningless thing to say. Are women from Port Elizabeth catching taxis to Cape Town? I sort of doubt it because I somehow doubt the PE public hospitals are that much worse than anywhere else. Or, are women from rural areas with ****ty infrastructure going to the closest more developed areas some of which happen to be in another province?

No, not at all. Woman from rural parts of the eastern cape are going to the western cape for medical services. Theyre not going to PE. Theyre going from the Transkei to the WC. The PE and EL hospitals cant be fairly compared with CT hospitals by a sober human.

The clinics and hospitals in the WC are far better than most clinics and hospitals here. The staff are more jacked up, you dont need to wait in a queue several days for medication, you have higher quality doctors, etc. Its a pretty long list. Frere in East London is overloaded, it cant handle the capacity, and CMH is a huge corruption-fest. Good luck in getting your medication in under two days.

On the subject of medication, just a small change the DA did when they govern. Instead of trying to dispense medicine from only the hospital pharmacies they made a deal with Clicks. Now you can get your important government sponsored medicine from a Clicks instead. This really reduced the time it takes for people to get access to critical medication. Private/public partnerships like that are smart.