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Purchasing decision - Mac vs PC (no trolling please)
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cerebus
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You are not a very good rep for your product.
Thankfully MSI gaming notebooks are in a completely different category to a Macbook. At least that's how I rationalize it to myself.furpile
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For a school student, really? Buy a R4k or R5k laptop and save the money for something useful. And kids adapt really quickly, so it's not like she won't be able to adjust to windows after using a mac.
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kingrob
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Yup, definitely in a different league.
Apple just use the Intel onboard graphics, so unlikely that you'll have a smooth experience when playing Starcraft II : Legacy of the Void on it.
Fatality07
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Save the bucks, get a pc...
You haven't listed any special requirements such as video editing etc.
You haven't listed any special requirements such as video editing etc.
PostmanPot
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I suggest commenting on that which you know about, and holding back when you haven't got a clue and feel like thumb sucking.
SauRoNZA
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Neotel??
Nah. American satellite telecoms.
But before this I worked for the almighty Broederbond which was a 50/50 Mac shop so I've had a number of years of stats to Base my opinions on.
Macs genuinely last longer and have less issues. Not issue free but on average I would say over 5 years an Apple last better and soldiers on longer than the Dell/HP/Mecer/IBM equivalents.
Also a lot less error please prone in a managed OS environment.
Outside of corporate I gave given my mother and old iMac and I have had less support calls than in the years before on Windows.
Yes it's expensive in the short term, but longterm I feel it balances out.
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Polymathic
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windows 8.1 + classic shell x100 better than windows 7 IMOMac's should only be really bought if you are using it for a specific purpose IE, video editing, PS.
Save yourself the bucks and get a laptop and format the crap W8.1 for W7 (personal opinion).
PS: If you are looking to giveaway that old Macbook, think of me first
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kingrob
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The same ol' PlasmaPot telling forumites that the iPhone 6 Plus has never bent, people are just telling lies.
Rich coming from you.
PostmanPot
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Actually I said it doesn't bend under normal use and that everything was blown out of proportion. This is a fact and you need to be brought up to speed if you deny it. Just like any phone can bend under abnormal use. That you draw so much from a few YouTube videos and other hype shows exactly the mentality we're dealing with here. Go back to the thread, robbie, I'm still waiting for you to reply.
No surprise though that you would add even more ignorance to this thread, and be even further of a disservice to even more people. Rather go make yourself heard on topics you actually know something about, than those you haven't the faintest clue about.
Use a criteria to measure both the needs of the user (student), capabilities and costs. Here are some:
1. User --> What will it be used for? Mostly projects, internet etc. (I know, already been stated in the original post)
If you know what it will be used for, then you need to ask the following:
2. Capabilities --> battery life, screen, speed, storage, upgrade ability etc. based upon the requirements. Soft issues like reliability, warranty etc.
This will provide you with some specs to start shortlisting
3. Cost --> Initial cost, OS upgrade costs, purchasing of additional software (MS Office), Total cost of ownership
Not just focus on the initial cost, but also running costs.
I did this exercise 4 years ago. Ended up with a MacBook Pro (leveraging on the student discount), mostly due to the aluminium build (I've chipped to many plastic laptops) and battery life (6-8 hours) for my studies.
1. User --> What will it be used for? Mostly projects, internet etc. (I know, already been stated in the original post)
If you know what it will be used for, then you need to ask the following:
2. Capabilities --> battery life, screen, speed, storage, upgrade ability etc. based upon the requirements. Soft issues like reliability, warranty etc.
This will provide you with some specs to start shortlisting
3. Cost --> Initial cost, OS upgrade costs, purchasing of additional software (MS Office), Total cost of ownership
Not just focus on the initial cost, but also running costs.
I did this exercise 4 years ago. Ended up with a MacBook Pro (leveraging on the student discount), mostly due to the aluminium build (I've chipped to many plastic laptops) and battery life (6-8 hours) for my studies.
cerebus
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Macbook Air has Intel HD5000 graphics. It isn't even remotely a gaming capable notebook. The 13" retina Macbook Pro also uses Iris graphics. The 15" has a choice of a 750m, which should just about barely run games at that resolution. On the other hand for R13k you could get this:
http://www.takealot.com/msi-gaming-series-ge60-2pe1-apache-pro-intel-i7-15-6-laptop/PLID33057120
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kingrob
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Here you clearly demonstrate your biggest issue....if someone does not agree with you, then you try to belittle him/her/them.
That's a sign of immaturity and something that's not needed here.
We are simply discussing what might be the best option for AfricanTech's daughter's next notebook purchase and you are now actively enforcing the idea that anything else than a Mac is a stupid purchase.
What is your problem?
PostmanPot
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Intel HD 4000 runs Starcraft 2 well, HD 3000 even manages.
Intel Iris runs Starcraft 2 very well.
And yes, the top end 15" rMBP comes with Nvidia graphics.
What many people forget is that, just like Windows, you can run games at lower resolution. It would be silly running them at Retina, rather use FHD, 1680x1050, etc.
I speak from experience here.
DrJohnZoidberg
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It also comes down a lot to personal taste.
I for one cannot stand the constant barrage of Windows updates and restarts. I'm in the Mac camp now and it sounds cliche but everything just works.
I for one cannot stand the constant barrage of Windows updates and restarts. I'm in the Mac camp now and it sounds cliche but everything just works.
DrJohnZoidberg
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My rMBP does indeed run Starcraft 2 quite well, obviously not on high graphics but decent enough.
cerebus
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Yea see to people who actually want a machine for playing games on, that level of performance is a joke. Macs are great machines but gaming is not their forte. The gaming capabilities of that MSI notebook will outstrip any Mac notebook by a mile. But in the case of this thread, the OP clearly doesn't care about that factor.
PostmanPot
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Oh my. Rich.
Then you shouldn't do it.
Then don't spout unrelated misinformation.
The hardest thing in the world is to act in accordance with your thinking.
AfricanTech
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Said daughter is very good at looking after stuff
The Macbook was a hand me down that she has been using for 18 months, prior to that she had a Compaq (which is now 7 years old) that is still going strong (running Windows 8.1 now).
I've actually had more issues with the Macbook than the Compaq - hard drive has been replaced (bad sectors developed after about 3 years) and the battery swelled up just after the warranty expired (I think there is a thread somewhere here on MyBB on that saga - been using aftermarket batteries since then - they last about 18 months - the originals are horrendously expensive).
PostmanPot
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Yip. Also, people don't buy Macs for gaming at the highest quality.
Let me assure though, that when it comes to Starcraft 2, it runs extremely well.