Putting a Chip on your car

more power requires more fuel so I'm not sure how that chip is going to work

rather go the revo route or something more reputable than that thing
 
Turbo life will be shortened, as that of the clutch. It might be worth having your car remapped at a VW dealer to that of the Ibiza Cupra TDi (118KW, 350Nm). I had it done to my TDi after they replaced the turbo under a recall and TBH it only fscked up my fuel consumption (6.0L/100km from 5.2L/100KM). It also smoked a lot more under acceleration, even in high gears.

The car already goes like stink, leave it at that.
 
Naks said:
No, don't chip, ever.

Rather get a remap.

For a VAG, your best bet is FRC or CPI.
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^ This, finish en klaar.

If you want more power, get it done by a reputable tuner, like FRC.

Buying a 'chip' off of bid or buy, or anyone else is very risky. An engine rebuild kinda risky.

@ saturnz: more power, requires more fuel AND more air.

EDIT: a few other things to take note off: Chipping or remapping means
- you void the vehicle guarantee/maintenance plans/etc
- more strain on engine, brakes, clutch, drive train = more maintenance/risk of stuff breaking.
- FAST, RELIABLE, CHEAP << picky only two. ( e.g. fast+reliable, but not cheap, fast+cheap but not reliable )
 
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+1 on a remap, I bought a chip from a reputable company for R3500 and it really was a p.o.s... only adds more fuel, so technically it is faster but it smoked like a mofo and the consumtion was horrible. Luckily I got a refund after some good old fashioned threatening lol
 
I put a chip on my car, it was blown off when a 1993 Opel Monza Gsi came past me at lightning speed.

Get a 1993 COTY Opel Monza rather.
 
lcbxx said:
Turbo life will be shortened, as that of the clutch. It might be worth having your car remapped at a VW dealer to that of the Ibiza Cupra TDi (118KW, 350Nm). I had it done to my TDi after they replaced the turbo under a recall and TBH it only fscked up my fuel consumption (6.0L/100km from 5.2L/100KM). It also smoked a lot more under acceleration, even in high gears.

The car already goes like stink, leave it at that.
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Come come now, let's not think too highly of Polo TDi's shall we? :whistle:

Stay away from chips bought at places like BoB and the like. +1 to remap, and +1 to FRC.
 
Go FRC or REVO.

Consumption should not go up as it is a finer tune, at least that is the case with the 2.0T petrol motors
 
lcbxx said:
Turbo life will be shortened, as that of the clutch. It might be worth having your car remapped at a VW dealer to that of the Ibiza Cupra TDi (118KW, 350Nm). I had it done to my TDi after they replaced the turbo under a recall and TBH it only fscked up my fuel consumption (6.0L/100km from 5.2L/100KM). It also smoked a lot more under acceleration, even in high gears.
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wtf lol. Name and shame that dealer. There is enough of a hardware difference between the cupra TDI and sportline TDI that the maps are completely different.
 
TehStranger said:
Come come now, let's not think too highly of Polo TDi's shall we? :whistle:
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Methinks you fail to realise just how quick that 96KW's were, even today. Once you get past 1st and 2nd there is very few cars in it's class that can keep up.
 
Yeah no need to chip a VW, just get the stock ECU remapped.

@ saturnz: more power, requires more fuel AND more air.
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A remap doesn't automatically necessarily amount to using more fuel. Sometimes cars are more fuel efficient after remapping since they are tuned specifically to that exact car and not compromised with a generic map as for thousands of cars built to the same spec.

- more strain on engine, brakes, clutch, drive train = more maintenance/risk of stuff breaking.
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Engine sure, but I fail to see how brakes, clutch and drive train will suffer on any more than a paper value due to a maximum of a 5% increase when only remapping. Brakes and clutch have more to do with driving style than direct engine power output.

If it's remapping with changing other parts and induction etc, then it's a different story.
 
Sinbad said:
wtf lol. Name and shame that dealer. There is enough of a hardware difference between the cupra TDI and sportline TDI that the maps are completely different.
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I'm not the expert; the power and torque were compatible with a remap a tuner delivers on the same engine when I took it to a dyno day. Point is that on the long term the only difference was more smoke and higher overall consumption. It might have accelerated harder but not to the extent that I went WOW.
Other people who had the same campaign turbo recall complained off less power when they got their TDi's back, hence I opted for the remap that didn't affect the warranty.
 
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SauRoNZA said:
Yeah no need to chip a VW, just get the stock ECU remapped.



A remap doesn't automatically necessarily amount to using more fuel. Sometimes cars are more fuel efficient after remapping since they are tuned specifically to that exact car and not compromised with a generic map as for thousands of cars built to the same spec.



Engine sure, but I fail to see how brakes, clutch and drive train will suffer on any more than a paper value due to a maximum of a 5% increase when only remapping. Brakes and clutch have more to do with driving style than direct engine power output.

If it's remapping with changing other parts and induction etc, then it's a different story.
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Agreed, but fine tuning can only take you so far. At some point, you must start to add more fuel (and more air, indirectly, using the boost pressure).

Lets start with brakes: You will find yourself braking much more often and harder...more power strains your brakes more, because you tend to go faster sooner etc. Don't believe me ? Go chat to some tuners.

More power (to be more specific, more torque), puts more strain on the clutch (a clutch usually has a max torque rating before it starts slipping) and that also puts more strain on the drive-train (ie gearbox, diffs, cv's etc). Don't believe me ? Go chat to some tuners.

kthx.
 
lcbxx said:
Methinks you fail to realise just how quick that 96KW's were, even today. Once you get past 1st and 2nd there is very few cars in it's class that can keep up.
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I've spent years picking on 96KW Polo TDi's (modded or otherwise), so perhaps I don't have the most unbiased view of them. "Torque FTMFW... oh **** i ran out of revs."

7k+ revs crew checking in.
 
Mr.Jax said:
Agreed, but fine tuning can only take you so far. At some point, you must start to add more fuel (and more air, indirectly, using the boost pressure).
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You aren't changing the A/F ratio with the boost pressure change, but rather the density of the air going into the ignition chamber. It could be that the stock values are heavily over fuelled and that it actually needs to lean out to perform better, so a higher fuel add isn't a given.

Lets start with brakes: You will find yourself braking much more often and harder...more power strains your brakes more, because you tend to go faster sooner etc. Don't believe me ? Go chat to some tuners.
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Again this is an assumption, not a given. More power doesn't mean you have to or will drive faster. In fact it means you might drive the car less hard because you don't need to drive the crap out of it to get the same level of performance. You could drive with the same performance as before for less effort.

More power (to be more specific, more torque), puts more strain on the clutch (a clutch usually has a max torque rating before it starts slipping) and that also puts more strain on the drive-train (ie gearbox, diffs, cv's etc). Don't believe me ? Go chat to some tuners.
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Fair comment, if the increase in torque does max out the rating, which I very much doubt it will as VW won't run that close to the limits anyway.

Read my comments again and you'll see I specifically said the maximum increase of 5% on a remap is going to amount to nothing more than a PAPER VALUE with regards to the things you mentioned above.

Even if it causes more wear on paper, I very much doubt it will be enough of a difference overall to the cost of running the car. And as with many cases the car might actually run cheaper due to the fuel bill coming slightly (if it does that is).
 
I got my TDI Chipped and I don't regret it one day, I still have the conumption before the chip but the extra power is there when needed.

I can still achieve 5l +- per 100km even with the chip :)
 
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