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Python suspected in boys' deaths in Canada
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I'm no expert on snakes, just can't see how it would coil around both at the same time.
Azbubu
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They got scared and huddled up?
AfricanTech
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Jeezus....
porchrat
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I read the title and thought "how can a scripting language kill children?!?" 
Perhaps or freaked out and attempted to attack the snake.
Perl's pretty dangerous.I read the title and thought "how can a scripting language kill children?!?"
blunomore
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Well, I am sure there would be some forensic evidence emanating from the autopsies to give an answer one way or the other.
Hemi300c
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Sorry but this is bollocks I was chased by a Black Mamba and have a witness to prove it.
It does sound strange that there is no mention of the snake trying to eat them??
Daars 'n slang in die gras ek dink.
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This snake is a wild creature. Wild creatures often display unpredictable and often aggressive behavior. We should know, we have a country full of them.
Rocket Raccoon
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blunomore
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The FB page of the pet shop owner in whose house this happened:
https://www.facebook.com/jeanclaude.savoie.7?fref=ts
The FB page of the boys' mother:
https://www.facebook.com/mandy.trecartin?fref=ts
Something else:
One of the news articles mentions that the python "... punched a hole in the ceiling and dropped onto boys who were sleeping".
Snakes can punch holes in a ceiling ??
https://www.facebook.com/jeanclaude.savoie.7?fref=ts
The FB page of the boys' mother:
https://www.facebook.com/mandy.trecartin?fref=ts
Something else:
One of the news articles mentions that the python "... punched a hole in the ceiling and dropped onto boys who were sleeping".
Snakes can punch holes in a ceiling ??
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i would think that if an animal thinks it's in any danger then it will become aggressive. but if you think about it logically these boys were asleep. so their breathing was shallow and their heart beats were down. everyone knows that you heart beats a bit slower when sleeping. so in essence why would the snake think that it was in any danger if there was minimal activity in the room?
The FB page of the pet shop owner in whose house this happened:
https://www.facebook.com/jeanclaude.savoie.7?fref=ts
The FB page of the boys' mother:
https://www.facebook.com/mandy.trecartin?fref=ts
I have a bad feeling about the pet shop owner.
Something else:
One of the news articles mentions that the python "... punched a hole in the ceiling and dropped onto boys who were sleeping".
Snakes can punch holes in a ceiling ??
i also read this bit about the ceiling blu and quite frankly what a load of codswallop.
Black Mambas are a known exception to this rule. They are the one snake that will actively chase humans. Pythons, on the other hand are known to be very lazy...
LazyLion
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Python Strangling Deaths to be Probed
A 100-pound (45-kilogram) python blamed in the strangling deaths of two Canadian boys apparently escaped from its pet store enclosure, slithered through a ventilation system and fell through the ceiling into the room where the young brothers were sleeping, the shop owner said Tuesday.
A snake expert said it was possible that the python was spooked and simply clung to whatever it landed on. Police are treating the deaths as a criminal investigation.
Autopsies on Noah Barthe, 5 and his brother Connor Barthe, 7, were being performed Tuesday. They had been visiting the apartment of a friend above an exotic pet store in Campbellton, New Brunswick, said Royal Canadian Mounted Police Const. Julie Rogers-Marsh.
Rogers-Marsh said the snake apparently escaped during the night and made its way into the apartment through the ventilation system. A friend of the boys was sleeping in another room and was unharmed, she said.
The pet store owner, Jean-Claude Savoie, told the Global News television station that he didn't hear a sound and discovered the "horrific scene" when he went into his living room, where the two boys had been sleeping, on Monday morning.
"I can't believe this is real," Savoie said.
The boys were the children of his best friend and were often at his apartment to visit his son, Savoie said. The python, which he has had for at least 10 years, had been kept alone in its enclosure and was not handled by anyone else, he added.
Police said the snake has been killed by a veterinarian.
The snake was about 4.3 meters (4.7 yards) long, RCMP Sgt. Alain Tremblay said. He said police were looking at whether the store followed the province's regulations on exotic animals.
"It's a criminal investigation," Tremblay said. "We're going to look at all avenues."
The RCMP's Major Crime Unit is continuing the investigation, with the assistance of a reptile expert from the Magnetic Hill Zoo in Moncton, New Brunswick.
The town's deputy mayor, Ian Comeau, said the Reptile Ocean shop was licensed to operate and "everything was according to our bylaws, to the provincial guidelines." He said he saw alligators, crocodiles and snakes when he toured the shop with the fire department about two years ago.
Snake expert John Kendrick, a manager at the Reptile Store in Hamilton, Ontario, said it sounds like the python was not enclosed properly and might have been spooked. He called the strangling deaths "very unusual" but said African rock pythons tend to be a little more high-strung.
"It's very odd that one would go out and seek out a person. They don't recognize us as food," he said.
Pythons can sense heat, and if they are startled they can grab something, Kendrick said. He said snakes are very long and their muscles run lengthwise through their body, so they are not very stable unless they are holding on to something.
"A snake that size that was just trying to hold on securely enough to make sure he felt like he wasn't falling or going anywhere; he has enough muscle power to cut off circulation," he said.
It's possible that the python was just holding on to what it landed on, Kendrick said.
"Once they are in constricting mode, any part of their body that is touching something that moves, they'll wrap it. I've seen snakes with two different prey items at the same time, one with the back of the body and one with the front. It could have been an incident like that."
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Associated Press writer Rob Gillies in Toronto contributed to this report.
Source : Sapa-AP /mjs
Date : 06 Aug 2013 20:31
A 100-pound (45-kilogram) python blamed in the strangling deaths of two Canadian boys apparently escaped from its pet store enclosure, slithered through a ventilation system and fell through the ceiling into the room where the young brothers were sleeping, the shop owner said Tuesday.
A snake expert said it was possible that the python was spooked and simply clung to whatever it landed on. Police are treating the deaths as a criminal investigation.
Autopsies on Noah Barthe, 5 and his brother Connor Barthe, 7, were being performed Tuesday. They had been visiting the apartment of a friend above an exotic pet store in Campbellton, New Brunswick, said Royal Canadian Mounted Police Const. Julie Rogers-Marsh.
Rogers-Marsh said the snake apparently escaped during the night and made its way into the apartment through the ventilation system. A friend of the boys was sleeping in another room and was unharmed, she said.
The pet store owner, Jean-Claude Savoie, told the Global News television station that he didn't hear a sound and discovered the "horrific scene" when he went into his living room, where the two boys had been sleeping, on Monday morning.
"I can't believe this is real," Savoie said.
The boys were the children of his best friend and were often at his apartment to visit his son, Savoie said. The python, which he has had for at least 10 years, had been kept alone in its enclosure and was not handled by anyone else, he added.
Police said the snake has been killed by a veterinarian.
The snake was about 4.3 meters (4.7 yards) long, RCMP Sgt. Alain Tremblay said. He said police were looking at whether the store followed the province's regulations on exotic animals.
"It's a criminal investigation," Tremblay said. "We're going to look at all avenues."
The RCMP's Major Crime Unit is continuing the investigation, with the assistance of a reptile expert from the Magnetic Hill Zoo in Moncton, New Brunswick.
The town's deputy mayor, Ian Comeau, said the Reptile Ocean shop was licensed to operate and "everything was according to our bylaws, to the provincial guidelines." He said he saw alligators, crocodiles and snakes when he toured the shop with the fire department about two years ago.
Snake expert John Kendrick, a manager at the Reptile Store in Hamilton, Ontario, said it sounds like the python was not enclosed properly and might have been spooked. He called the strangling deaths "very unusual" but said African rock pythons tend to be a little more high-strung.
"It's very odd that one would go out and seek out a person. They don't recognize us as food," he said.
Pythons can sense heat, and if they are startled they can grab something, Kendrick said. He said snakes are very long and their muscles run lengthwise through their body, so they are not very stable unless they are holding on to something.
"A snake that size that was just trying to hold on securely enough to make sure he felt like he wasn't falling or going anywhere; he has enough muscle power to cut off circulation," he said.
It's possible that the python was just holding on to what it landed on, Kendrick said.
"Once they are in constricting mode, any part of their body that is touching something that moves, they'll wrap it. I've seen snakes with two different prey items at the same time, one with the back of the body and one with the front. It could have been an incident like that."
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Associated Press writer Rob Gillies in Toronto contributed to this report.
Source : Sapa-AP /mjs
Date : 06 Aug 2013 20:31
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waterprism
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Are snakes hoarders? Maybe he'd just been fed and so wasn't hungry, but still wanted to stock up a larder for what he thought was going to be a brand new life.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Canada baffled by death of boys in python attack
The death of children is always gut-wrenching but Canadians are struggling with a particularly gruesome case: two small boys killed in their sleep by an African python.
The boys -- brothers aged five and seven -- were sleeping at a friend's apartment on Sunday in the small town of Campbellton in the east of the country when they were surprised by the snake.
Police believe the python slithered out of its enclosure, got into the ventilation system and into their apartment, which belonged to the owner of a pet store located downstairs.
Sergeant Alain Tremblay, of the Royal Canadian Mountain Police, identified the brothers Noah and Connor Barthe.
"The apartment is located upstairs from a reptile store where the snake had gotten out of his enclosure, made his way into the ventilation system," he said.
"Then into the living room where the two boys were sleeping," he said, adding that a pipe appeared to have broken and allowed the snake into the room.
Autopsies were expected Tuesday but at this stage it is believed the boys were strangled by the snake, which is of a species that constricts its prey and squeezes out its life.
"The snake was captured and is in RCMP possession. The investigation into what happened is ongoing," Tremblay said.
Police said the snake was a rock python, also known as a python sebae, the biggest snake species in Africa. It is not poisonous, but is hugely strong and capable of killing large animals including antelopes.
It is not known as a man-eater in the wild, but is widely feared.
Canadian media said the snake was four meters (13 feet) long and weighed around 45 kilos (100 pounds).
The owner of the pet shop, Jean-Claude Savoie -- whose son had invited the two brothers over for a sleepover, said he found the boys' bodies Monday morning -- as the snake lay by a ventilation duct.
"I have many mixed emotions right now. It's ridiculous. I can't believe this is real," he told Radio-Canada.
"It's strange, I'm just trying to piece it together," added Lee Parker, the facilities manager at an Ontario reptile zoo named Reptilia.
He told CBC that pythons only kill to eat.
"They don't go on killing sprees ... it doesn't make sense to me," he said.
Former pet shop owner Laurent Brisson told Radio-Canada that heat can also attract such snakes and after that hunting is simply a matter of instinct.
The RCMP major crimes section is carrying out a criminal investigation but has not brought charges.
The incident sparked strong reactions in Campbellton, a town of just over 7,000 people on Chaleur Bay in northern New Brunswick.
Deputy Mayor Ian Comeau expressed sorrow over the accident and noted that there had been opposition to the presence of the exotic pet store in the town.
He pledged the city ordinance that allowed it would immediately come under review.
Source : Sapa-AFP /mjs
Date : 06 Aug 2013 22:37
The death of children is always gut-wrenching but Canadians are struggling with a particularly gruesome case: two small boys killed in their sleep by an African python.
The boys -- brothers aged five and seven -- were sleeping at a friend's apartment on Sunday in the small town of Campbellton in the east of the country when they were surprised by the snake.
Police believe the python slithered out of its enclosure, got into the ventilation system and into their apartment, which belonged to the owner of a pet store located downstairs.
Sergeant Alain Tremblay, of the Royal Canadian Mountain Police, identified the brothers Noah and Connor Barthe.
"The apartment is located upstairs from a reptile store where the snake had gotten out of his enclosure, made his way into the ventilation system," he said.
"Then into the living room where the two boys were sleeping," he said, adding that a pipe appeared to have broken and allowed the snake into the room.
Autopsies were expected Tuesday but at this stage it is believed the boys were strangled by the snake, which is of a species that constricts its prey and squeezes out its life.
"The snake was captured and is in RCMP possession. The investigation into what happened is ongoing," Tremblay said.
Police said the snake was a rock python, also known as a python sebae, the biggest snake species in Africa. It is not poisonous, but is hugely strong and capable of killing large animals including antelopes.
It is not known as a man-eater in the wild, but is widely feared.
Canadian media said the snake was four meters (13 feet) long and weighed around 45 kilos (100 pounds).
The owner of the pet shop, Jean-Claude Savoie -- whose son had invited the two brothers over for a sleepover, said he found the boys' bodies Monday morning -- as the snake lay by a ventilation duct.
"I have many mixed emotions right now. It's ridiculous. I can't believe this is real," he told Radio-Canada.
"It's strange, I'm just trying to piece it together," added Lee Parker, the facilities manager at an Ontario reptile zoo named Reptilia.
He told CBC that pythons only kill to eat.
"They don't go on killing sprees ... it doesn't make sense to me," he said.
Former pet shop owner Laurent Brisson told Radio-Canada that heat can also attract such snakes and after that hunting is simply a matter of instinct.
The RCMP major crimes section is carrying out a criminal investigation but has not brought charges.
The incident sparked strong reactions in Campbellton, a town of just over 7,000 people on Chaleur Bay in northern New Brunswick.
Deputy Mayor Ian Comeau expressed sorrow over the accident and noted that there had been opposition to the presence of the exotic pet store in the town.
He pledged the city ordinance that allowed it would immediately come under review.
Source : Sapa-AFP /mjs
Date : 06 Aug 2013 22:37
Azbubu
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WTF why is the ethnicity of the snake relevant here. Do non-African Pythons kill helpless children? Welcome to the new Canada.