Q9650 price vs performance

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Well ok before I ask anything here is my setup as of now

Intel e8400 OC. 3.4ghz
Asus p5e mobo
Corsiar Dominator 1066mhz 1gb x4
Geforce 275GTX

A month ago I had a problem with my pc so my kind suppliers replaced my mobo and ram with brand new ones ^^. The same but just new and now I got a quote for a Q9650 intel cpu for R2500.
So if I sell my cpu I guess I would only need to pay R2000 for the Q9650.

So here is my question, would it be worth it to buy that cpu and max out my current 775 platform or rather save up(2years min) and by myself a new pc. What would be better performance price wise.

Things to remember.

Q9650 trails only a little bit behind the i5 750. So for R2000 I can get roughly i5 performance on a 775 platform.

If I want to go the i7 path or i5 its gonna cost me the cpu + a new mobo and ram. So with good pricing I'm looking at R5000+

So I'm asking the wizards of the MBB forum, what would be the smarter buy?

Thanks.
 
I upgraded my E6550 to a QX6850 (thank you ebay!) and now it's running at 3.5GHz on my Asus P5E Pro. Should last me long enough until I go the i7 way. The QX6850 cost me R1800 on ebay btw. Second hand, but works perfectly! Also, supposedly socket 1156 (if my numbers are correct) is going to be phased out soonish, so either go with the big socket or stick to 775 for now :)
 
The way I see it. R2k trumps R5k for price performance. So I'd also just stay with 775 for now.
 
Praeses said:
Also, supposedly socket 1156 (if my numbers are correct) is going to be phased out soonish
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Would you mind posting a source?

LGA 1156 is targeted at the mainstream whereas LGA 1366 is targeted toward the high-end. A google on "LGA 1156 phase out" and "LGA 1156 discontinue" yields forums with speculation. Some say LGA 1366 will go first others LGA 1156. However none provide links.

I'll say one thing for AMD however, I've got a Asus M2N32 motherboard (serving as my NAS) that I bought when it came out (think it came out in 2006). I just checked for BIOS updates a week ago and they've added a beta BIOS allowing compatibility with the latest AMD x4 CPUs (x6 aren't supported but still, it's come a long way). AMDs die hard :p
 
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Gnome said:
Would you mind posting a source?

LGA 1156 is targeted at the mainstream whereas LGA 1366 is targeted toward the high-end. A google on "LGA 1156 phase out" and "LGA 1156 discontinue" yields forums with speculation. Some say LGA 1366 will go first others LGA 1156. However none provide links.
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Sorry for not being clear, I meant that I read about rumours. I've only heard the 1156 rumours though. Wonder if there's a newish intel roadmap somewhere...
 
Praeses said:
Sorry for not being clear, I meant that I read about rumours. I've only heard the 1156 rumours though. Wonder if there's a newish intel roadmap somewhere...
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Ah I think those rumours are founded on the idea that smaller CPU socket = more likely to be phased out. But Anandtech pointed out that the Intel engineers clearly target both sockets at different segments. It's already been confirmed that no six core CPUs will be released on LGA 1156, however that doesn't mean it's going to be phased out soon.

Intel doesn't stick to any socket for very long so if you think by buying LGA 1366 you'll be safe in the future, guess again ;)
 
Gnome said:
Ah I think those rumours are founded on the idea that smaller CPU socket = more likely to be phased out. But Anandtech pointed out that the Intel engineers clearly target both sockets at different segments. It's already been confirmed that no six core CPUs will be released on LGA 1156, however that doesn't mean it's going to be phased out soon.

Intel doesn't stick to any socket for very long so if you think by buying LGA 1366 you'll be safe in the future, guess again ;)
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Socket 775? As far as i remember that was around since the Dinosaurs.
 
Praeses said:
Sorry for not being clear, I meant that I read about rumours. I've only heard the 1156 rumours though. Wonder if there's a newish intel roadmap somewhere...
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The facts: LGA1155 will replace LGA1156 for Sandy Bridge, with the first chips probably coming out in January. This has been known for a while, and motherboard prototypes have already been displayed at conventions. LGA2011 will be released later next year.

Possible situations: 1) LGA1366 will be replaced by LGA2011 in both the server and high-end desktop segment. 2) LGA1366 will only be replaced in the server segment and will continue in the high-end desktop segment.

I think that 1) is more likely, but we will probably find out at IDF in September.
 
Monkey101 said:
Socket 775? As far as i remember that was around since the Dinosaurs.
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LOL, well then I rest my case ;) You shouldn't have to worry about it then anyway.

Seriously though if I remember correctly, every time an architecture change occurred new motherboard and chipsets were required.
 
http://download.intel.com/products/roadmap/roadmap.pdf In here they only show sandbridge aimed at the server market, but no mention of 2011

This article how ever is a good read: http://www.cdrinfo.com/sections/news/Details.aspx?NewsId=26012

Don't expect future proof from Intel any time soon:
That plan revolves around introducing an entirely new processor microarchitecture alternating with a cutting edge manufacturing process about every 12 months.
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The next architectures are IVY Bridge and Haswell, after Sandy Bridge that is http://www.dvhardware.net/article29056.html
 
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lol feels like this has gone a little of my subject :P

Basically

Q9650 for R2000 Now or i7 + Mobo + Ram in a year or 2 (more likely 2)

What can keep me happier the longest?
 
Well that is kinda the point:

1) The i7 might change completely or might be phased out. No one but Intel knows, every second processor revamp from Intel is an architecture change (check the Tick Tock chart above, after each Tick a new architecture is introduced).
2) I wouldn't take a i7 over an i5. The reasons for the i7 (or other socket) being more future proof as I said is unsubstantiated and is therefore hearsay, unless someone can prove otherwise and very few applications warrant the excessive price for the i7.
3) You are already running a heavily over clocked setup, will you really get such a large benefit from a Q9650 and you should ask yourself if you really need the processor speed? Processor speed is hardly an issue these days IMHO, what kind of work load do you typically do? Games/applications?
 
Gnome said:
3) You are already running a heavily over clocked setup, will you really get such a large benefit from a Q9650 and you should ask yourself if you really need the processor speed? Processor speed is hardly an issue these days IMHO, what kind of work load do you typically do? Games/applications?
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Yes exactly, you will hardly notice any difference between an E8400 and Q9650 for almost all purposes. Rather spend the R2000 on an SSD or something else like that, maybe put it towards a nice screen.
 
This Wikipedia article shows the desktop LGA 1155 processors. It seems like the there won't be any 32 nm i7s on LGA 1156, and since 45 nm is getting a bit long in the tooth, I think LGA 1156 won't be with us for much longer either.
 
Drunkard #1 said:
This Wikipedia article shows the desktop LGA 1155 processors. It seems like the there won't be any 32 nm i7s on LGA 1156, and since 45 nm is getting a bit long in the tooth, I think LGA 1156 won't be with us for much longer either.
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What? There are plently of 32nm chips for LGA1156 (ten that I know of), there are even two 32nm LGA1366 chips. Moving along, choosing between a quad 775 chip, or upgrading completely the best value will be gained from only upgrading your CPU. You will have to OC your chip, but making it another two years should be doable.
 
Are you having performance issues that require you to update your CPU?

If not save the 2k for a future i5/i7 upgrade.
 
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