saffakanera
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Hey gents,
R20k on a PC (Box only)
What can you guys come up with?
R20k on a PC (Box only)
What can you guys come up with?
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R20k PC - box only, recommend specs?
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NomNom
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This is a good read here: http://www.nag.co.za/2013/06/26/system-builders-guide-june-r18000-to-r30000/
mika1000
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R20k dont go very far building a pc these days...
First of all, I'm probably guessing you're gonna buy the stuff at frontosa or something, so I will use their prices (just as an estimate)
Whether or not your prices are better or worse is besides the point, I'm focusing on the hardware for now.
Mobo
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme +- R5000
CPU:
Intel Core i7 3820 3.6GHz LGA 2011 +- R3000
PSU:
Corsair HX1050 Professional Series™— 80 PLUS® Silver Certified Modular Power Supply +- R2200
Chassis:
Coolermaster Cosmos II +- R3300
HDD:
Corsair 64GB SSD +- R1000
CPU Cooler:
Corsair H90 hydro series cpu water cooling +- R900
RAM:
8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz DDR3 RAM +- R800
GPU:
Sapphire HD7970 Vapor-X edition +- R4600
I think it works out to just over 20k (R20,800)
Then you can basically just add RAM every now and again, all the way to 64GB.
Hard drives are your own baby, I didn't include those except for a O/S drive.
That's what i'd do
Whether or not your prices are better or worse is besides the point, I'm focusing on the hardware for now.
Mobo
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme +- R5000
CPU:
Intel Core i7 3820 3.6GHz LGA 2011 +- R3000
PSU:
Corsair HX1050 Professional Series™— 80 PLUS® Silver Certified Modular Power Supply +- R2200
Chassis:
Coolermaster Cosmos II +- R3300
HDD:
Corsair 64GB SSD +- R1000
CPU Cooler:
Corsair H90 hydro series cpu water cooling +- R900
RAM:
8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz DDR3 RAM +- R800
GPU:
Sapphire HD7970 Vapor-X edition +- R4600
I think it works out to just over 20k (R20,800)
Then you can basically just add RAM every now and again, all the way to 64GB.
Hard drives are your own baby, I didn't include those except for a O/S drive.
That's what i'd do
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Yes but that mobo is drool worthy!
An overclockers wet dream, Quad Channel DDR3 + you can QuadFire your GFX + 10 SATA Ports
Also, the rest of the components are pretty up there too, R20k can go far.
List your build!
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saffakanera
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Yes but that mobo is drool worthy!
An overclockers wet dream, Quad Channel DDR3 + you can QuadFire your GFX + 10 SATA Ports
Also, the rest of the components are pretty up there too, R20k can go far.
List your build!
Keeper that is one motherless mobo, like it
xera
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@Keeper, for a "An overclockers wet dream" of a mobo, can that CPU even overclock?
Your specs seem quite mixed up.. It's like you're creating an empty shell that's ready to be upgraded to a monster in the future, except for the CPU, which doesn't make any sense.
To get better performance right now, I would rather spend less on the mobo, and get a better CPU.
Your specs seem quite mixed up.. It's like you're creating an empty shell that's ready to be upgraded to a monster in the future, except for the CPU, which doesn't make any sense.
To get better performance right now, I would rather spend less on the mobo, and get a better CPU.
Pada
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What will the PC be used for?
If its going to be used as a gaming PC, then I'd recommend the i7 4770 or 4770k (depending on whether the person is willing to overclock) in combination with a GTX 770 / HD 7970 and a 256GB SSD. I won't go for a PSU larger than 850W (for dual GPU) / 750W (single GPU)
If you're serious about overclocking and the PC won't be primarily used for gaming (eg. instead it will be used for like video encoding), then consider going for the 6 core i7 3930k CPU.
See http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-4770k_9.html
If its going to be used as a gaming PC, then I'd recommend the i7 4770 or 4770k (depending on whether the person is willing to overclock) in combination with a GTX 770 / HD 7970 and a 256GB SSD. I won't go for a PSU larger than 850W (for dual GPU) / 750W (single GPU)
If you're serious about overclocking and the PC won't be primarily used for gaming (eg. instead it will be used for like video encoding), then consider going for the 6 core i7 3930k CPU.
See http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-4770k_9.html
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xera
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Agreed. For the 4770, the k should also depend on if he want's VT-d or not.
Pada
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xera:
The 4770k has VT-x (hardware virtualization support), but lacks VT-d (directed I/O for virtualization). So you can still run VM's at lightening speed with the 4770k, but without VT-d it will be slightly slower, and a lot slower if you're planning on doing GPU stuff in the VM.
You can read more on that VT-d here:
Understanding VT-d: Intel Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O
To VT-d or Not to VT-d? A guide on whether to Utilize Direct Device Attach in your Virtualized System?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOMMU
The 4770k has VT-x (hardware virtualization support), but lacks VT-d (directed I/O for virtualization). So you can still run VM's at lightening speed with the 4770k, but without VT-d it will be slightly slower, and a lot slower if you're planning on doing GPU stuff in the VM.
You can read more on that VT-d here:
Understanding VT-d: Intel Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O
To VT-d or Not to VT-d? A guide on whether to Utilize Direct Device Attach in your Virtualized System?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOMMU
xera
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Pada... I do know what VT-d is...
My Conclusion:
The Evetech PC has filled up 2 out of 4 (50%) of it's ram slots already - leaving not much to upgrade. The Rampage IV extreme will still have 7 slots open.
The MSI is also a smaller board, only has dual channel memory, can only take 32GB total, has 2 less SATA ports, and SLI will be limited to 8x8 bus speeds instead of full 16x16 the Rampage has.
Both Graphics cards are in roughly the same class.
The Evetech also has a 800W gaming series psu (non-modular), versus the 1050W Corsair HX series (Fully Modular)
The CM Stryker chassis is also inferior to the CM Cosmos II.
The Evetech PC has a better SSD Drive.
I reckon my Hardware is better than that PC.
-WAY better Mobo, PSU and chassis.
-GFX, CPU & cooler are roughly on par.
-SSD is the only part that beats my specs.
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Pada
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At this moment Seasonic & Be Quiet provides the most affordable high-end modular PSU's available in SA.
I won't be concerned about that "pop" noise/issue that Necuno is referring to. I haven't heard a single remark about that myBB before you brought it up.
I have an AX850 and you can avoid that sound by simply switching off the PSU at the back before you plug in/unplug the kettle power cord. I'd prefer the "pop" noise above the electric arc noise that you get when you flick a switch on a high wattage unit.
I won't be concerned about that "pop" noise/issue that Necuno is referring to. I haven't heard a single remark about that myBB before you brought it up.
I have an AX850 and you can avoid that sound by simply switching off the PSU at the back before you plug in/unplug the kettle power cord. I'd prefer the "pop" noise above the electric arc noise that you get when you flick a switch on a high wattage unit.
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Pop still freaks me out a little. I've tried the switch at the back and my 650tx still does it each time... obviously been a while since we had lighting.
I've never had it with my HX850 either... Also, there's a 7 year warrantee on it.