Rain 5G upload speed question

[jbroo]

@rain_mobile is this a normal upload speed on your 5G basic offering?

My router reports 90% signal strength, so I doubt it's the signal. Just asking so I know what to expect. Download speed seems to be fine so far.

 

[Yuu]

hey @jbroo , been following your journey on the forum and congrats on finally getting to 5G.

We also got activated for 5G last week and I also get slow upload depending where I place the router.

After many days of placement, using an outdoor unit [for testing], I was able to achieve about 30Mbps download on the basic [speedtest.rain.co.za shows full speed even for us on basic package]. We are just shy under 700m from the tower but due to many factors influencing signal receive poor upload inside home.

They [rain] don't guarantee an upload from what i've seen but I would say try to squeeze as much as you can whenever possible to ensure good enough for sending files etc.

It does seem like a step back from 4G but we are dealing with newer tech/3.5Ghz 5G SA so we have to finetune accordingly.

For reference, download goes upto 239 with 1 upload inside. Doesn't sit well with me lol.

Keen to hear what @rain_mobile has to say.

tl:dr
Try placing close to window location, more elevation the better. 2.x/3.x poor upload iMHO

 

[Kiemo]

Congratulations guys on the rain 5g …

 

[jbroo]

Thanks @Yuu
My router is in a pretty good location and by a window, about 2m up. Router signal reports 85-90% (SINR is 14-15). My speedtests consistently show 40-50mbps downstream. It may be that my router does not have enough Tx power for a good upstream speed (I am on the edge of coverage). I'm hoping rain can answer why the huge difference between DL and UL bandwidth.

From other users' experience on these forums, they seem to get about 50mbps up (but also get 200-300 down). They might be on the premium packages so rain may throttle upload speed on the basic package.

I don't know if rain is using SA or NSA infrastucture (or a combination), but on SA it would be full 5G, not 4.5G/fake 5G/ etc. Judging by the tower locations on optimiser, these may be new towers (I never saw 4G towers at those locations when I was on 4G).

This newfound speed of course opens up other issues on my LAN/WLAN that I need to fix/review since I only get full speed when connected directly to the router's WiFi. My other APs in the house give some underwhelming results. Network gremlins. My RPi (on which the speedtests run) sits next to the router so that gives reliable results.

 

[RedDevil7108]

This 5G is "fake" 5G... Until South Africa get mmW ( millimetre Wave ) or UW ( Ultra Wave ) we won't get true 5G
Rain use to be on NSA ( and believe it or not, I used to get blazing 5G Premium speeds and latency with it being on NSA ) but now they are only SA which is great infrastructure, but service wise no so great not in my case.

 

[Gtx Gaming]

yeha my upload terrible I have limit it on miktrotik to 2mbps, because 5g dies if max the upload for too long.

Best i got was 320down and 5up, atm bit slower had move to router to be able to securely mount it outside. The temp location the wind blew down my home made tower

 

[Leno]

This 5G is "fake" 5G... Until South Africa get mmW ( millimetre Wave ) or UW ( Ultra Wave ) we won't get true 5G
Rain use to be on NSA ( and believe it or not, I used to get blazing 5G Premium speeds and latency with it being on NSA ) but now they are only SA which is great infrastructure, but service wise no so great not in my case.

Out of interest - where are they using non midband/cband for fixed broadband 5G in the world?

AFAIK the higher bands are handy in public places in very small cells and not for home broadband

Im on 5g from three in UK and its almost on the same band (N78) as Rain in SA
Three are using NSA, authough I think its only the signalling which is on 4g as its only a few Mhz

 

[jbroo]

@rain_mobile tl;dr, what is the expected upload speed on 5G basic?

 

[rain_mobile]

Hi @jbroo

As far as I know, there is no expected upload speed, however, in order to improve upload speeds, you will have to optimize the CPE.

 

[jbroo]

Thanks.

 

[SolidState]

@rain_mobile tl;dr, what is the expected upload speed on 5G basic?

Doing a speedtest using rains site, standard should show the same speed as premium.
When I was still on rain - on the couple of occasions it worked as advertised, I got over 100Mbps upload speed and download was mid to upper 200's - this was early in the mornings - 6-7am.
By 8pm speeds dropped to round a 10th of that ...
Was a outdoor CPE, mounted on a 6 meter pole, direct line of site to tower 580m away.

 

[mrlgm007]

Doing a speedtest using rains site, standard should show the same speed as premium.
When I was still on rain - on the couple of occasions it worked as advertised, I got over 100Mbps upload speed and download was mid to upper 200's - this was early in the mornings - 6-7am.
By 8pm speeds dropped to round a 10th of that ...
Was a outdoor CPE, mounted on a 6 meter pole, direct line of site to tower 580m away.

@Yuu @jbroo what are your results? with Rains speed test server.

I will also add mate of mine moved from R999 to R499 and also had the same speed issues upload with basic the following month moved back to R999 only type of connection he can get at his place.

 

[jbroo]

@Yuu @jbroo what are your results? with Rains speed test server.

I will also add mate of mine moved from R999 to R499 and also had the same speed issues upload with basic the following month moved back to R999 only type of connection he can get at his place.

See here. All my tests run to the rain speedtest server.