Rapist's bail shocker

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Headline story in our local paper "Weekend Post" today - not posted online yet. http://www.weekendpost.co.za/ (by Yolande Stander)

Paroled murderer Frankie Leeuskieter, who was this week jailed for raping and stabbing a Port Elizabeth grandmother aged 85, was out on bail for yet another violent crime when he attacked the elderly woman last year.
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When Leeuskieter, 26, was sentenced in the Port Elizabeth High Court to 22 years in jail last Friday for the attack on the pensioner it emerged that he had previously been sentenced to 10 years imprisonment for murder, but had been paroled after serving only eight years.

However, Weekend Post has subsequently learned that after his release on parole at the beginning of last year, he was again arrested - this time for house robbery.
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This character was convicted of murder at age 16 and sentenced to 10 years in jail.

At age 24 he is paroled after serving 8 years in prison.

Almost immediately upon his release he is arrested for house robbery and not jailed for parole violation, but granted bail.

A year later he rapes and stabs an 85 year lady in an old aged home.

The whole justice system has failed to protect society from this lowlife scum.
 
Garyvdh said:
This is why I advocate the death penalty for rape.
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You want the borked justice system that can't even put a rapist in jail to be responsible for putting someone to death? :erm:

Better hope no-one gets falsely accused then, with the calibre of authority meting out the punishment.
 
copacetic said:
You want the borked justice system that can't even put a rapist in jail to be responsible for putting someone to death? :erm:

Better hope no-one gets falsely accused then, with the calibre of authority meting out the punishment.
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Yeah... you see ... the thing about rape... is that most victims can identify their attacker... and may even know him by name.

But... it would carry the same degree of proof as murder.... "beyond a reasonable doubt"

This legal system may be pretty borked in letting guilty people go free... but it works pretty well in identifying those guilty parties.

the system worked pretty well... even under the old apartheid system... where rape carried the death penalty.
 
If anything our system is 'borked' in favour of the perpetrators, so I'm with Gary on this one. String him up.
 
That's all right fellows. I am just a hippie, opposed to the death penalty out of principal.

I have no desire to live in a place that has the right to put me or anyone else to death, given the right circumstances.

As naive as it may be, I simply cannot see how meeting barbarism with more barbarism is going to ultimately help matters.
 
copacetic said:
You want the borked justice system that can't even put a rapist in jail to be responsible for putting someone to death? :erm:

Better hope no-one gets falsely accused then, with the calibre of authority meting out the punishment.
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+1
 
copacetic said:
As naive as it may be, I simply cannot see how meeting barbarism with more barbarism is going to ultimately help matters.
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Well, the system as it stands is failing. Even if the introduction of the death penalty is not a possibility, then perpetrators of violent crimes should be denied any sort of parole for the duration of their sentence. Does his right to life count more than his victims' rights to not be attacked/murdered/raped?
 
hyperian said:
Well, the system as it stands is failing. Even if the introduction of the death penalty is not a possibility, then perpetrators of violent crimes should be denied any sort of parole for the duration of their sentence. Does his right to life count more than his victims' rights to not be attacked/murdered/raped?
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Put them in jail, work their asses off, they don't need to be treated like kings with ****ing flat screen TV's and whatnot.

I just vehemently oppose the death penalty personally. I don't really want to debate the death penalty with anyone as it will be a waste of my time, and theirs.
 
copacetic said:
I just vehemently oppose the death penalty personally. I don't really want to debate the death penalty with anyone as it will be a waste of my time, and theirs.
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Fair enough. I propose "Prisoner-Neutrality", similar to carbon neutrality. Prisoners will be required to work to offset the cost of keeping them in prison.
 
copacetic said:
As naive as it may be, I simply cannot see how meeting barbarism with more barbarism is going to ultimately help matters.
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That’s exactly the mindset the barbarians want (much safer for them). Besides, you do not meet barbarism with more barbarism. You just coldly and clinically eliminate vermin. Regard it as pest control.
 
Palimino said:
That’s exactly the mindset the barbarians want (much safer for them). Besides, you do not meet barbarism with more barbarism. You just coldly and clinically eliminate vermin. Regard it as pest control.
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The people who would be responsible for putting these people to death are the same people we are currently criticizing for not being able to even keep them in jail. I simply don't see the logic in assigning the weight of responsibility of the death penalty (and it is a responsibility, a big one) to a justice system that is in tatters.

An eye for an eye, blood for blood may work for you, but it sickens me.

The vast amount of crime is due to the awful economic conditions that many millions of people are forced to try and survive in, whilst being denied adequate education. If there's anyone I would advocate harsh punishment to, it is the hordes of fat pig mother****ing politicians bleeding our country dry and driving off into the sunset in their armoured vehicles.
 
copacetic said:
Indeed. Some use emotion, others are practical.
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Indeed. Some use emotional bunny-hugging PC-ness, others are practical in solving the problem. If your kitchen is infested with cockroaches, you spray them, you don’t put-out food and encourage them.
 
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