Recommendations on 30 meter ethernet cable

Very happy with this one:

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Not that it matters, but it came in a nice box and all
 
Dill said:
The Ugreen lan cable actually seems to be worth the price and it's an ok brand.
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I will be honest, I did not consider the specs and brand name, I was more worried with the aesthetics. By taking my time, I was able to keep the cable flat against the bottom lip of the cornice as well as the top of my skirting. The only place it is really visible is in the corner of the room (from the cornice to skirting), but when I paint the room it will not be as noticeable.
 
Dill said:
I was also looking at this cable and the reviews didn't look to good. Is this cable weak and can break easily like some reviews say?
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Ja - I could snap it with my hands with little effort. And because the inner wires are so thin, crimping a repair is difficult.
 
maumau said:
While were talking about Ethernet cables, can they be lengthened?

We have one that's about 2m too short but it runs through the ceiling so would love to add a bit on the end. If it's a mission we'll just pull a new cable through.
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Ja - like Neuk_ says, get a coupler (female-female). I have previously used just such a solution without issue.
 
Dill said:
So I need to run a 30m ethernet cable from the ONT. Any recommendations on a good cable or where I can get the cable for a fairly decent price?

The ones on Takealot have ok reviews but some complaints that the cable quality is not good
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order online from scoop , www.scoop.co.za , and as mentioned get full copper and not CCA cable.
 
I am looking to buy about 30+M of Ethernet cable CAT6 to connect my router to my inverter, running it in conduit under the eaves. I will connect to the router and install the cable to the inverter. I am then going to get the guy who installed my solar to make the connection to the inverter, after trimming the cord to length and attaching a RJ45 plug.

The local IT company charges R12/m for CAT6 and will add to RJ45 Plugs at R3/each. So R366 for 30m with 2 plugs. No other info on the cable but it is the one they use for their installations so it has to be good, or at least adequate.

Having read this thread and checking online I see this:

Microworld 30m CAT6 Network Flylead - Light Grey R172 incl. VAT BEST BUY But is it the right one?
www.geewiz.co.za

Microworld 30m CAT6 Network Flylead - Light Grey

Microworld CAT6 Network Flylead Length - 30m Colour - Light Grey
www.geewiz.co.za www.geewiz.co.za

30 Meter STP CAT6E Network Cable up to 1Gbit/s LAN Cable – Precrimped and tested R329.00
www.hdcabling.co.za

30 Meter STP / Screened CAT6E Network Cable Up To 1Gbit/s LAN Cable – Precrimped And Tested

30 Meter STP / Screened CAT6E Network Cable up to 1Gbit/s LAN Cable – Precrimped and tested 30 Meter STP / Screened CAT6E Network Cable up to 1Gbit/s LAN
www.hdcabling.co.za www.hdcabling.co.za

I don't want to buy some inferior product as I want to do the job once and have a hasslefree connection I can forget about. But why is one cable about half the price of the other 2? What am I missing? What do I need?

Please advise me. Thank you.
 
Londo said:
I am looking to buy about 30+M of Ethernet cable CAT6 to connect my router to my inverter, running it in conduit under the eaves. I will connect to the router and install the cable to the inverter. I am then going to get the guy who installed my solar to make the connection to the inverter, after trimming the cord to length and attaching a RJ45 plug.

The local IT company charges R12/m for CAT6 and will add to RJ45 Plugs at R3/each. So R366 for 30m with 2 plugs. No other info on the cable but it is the one they use for their installations so it has to be good, or at least adequate.

Having read this thread and checking online I see this:

Microworld 30m CAT6 Network Flylead - Light Grey R172 incl. VAT BEST BUY But is it the right one?
www.geewiz.co.za

Microworld 30m CAT6 Network Flylead - Light Grey

Microworld CAT6 Network Flylead Length - 30m Colour - Light Grey
www.geewiz.co.za www.geewiz.co.za

30 Meter STP CAT6E Network Cable up to 1Gbit/s LAN Cable – Precrimped and tested R329.00
www.hdcabling.co.za

30 Meter STP / Screened CAT6E Network Cable Up To 1Gbit/s LAN Cable – Precrimped And Tested

30 Meter STP / Screened CAT6E Network Cable up to 1Gbit/s LAN Cable – Precrimped and tested 30 Meter STP / Screened CAT6E Network Cable up to 1Gbit/s LAN
www.hdcabling.co.za www.hdcabling.co.za

I don't want to buy some inferior product as I want to do the job once and have a hasslefree connection I can forget about. But why is one cable about half the price of the other 2? What am I missing? What do I need?

Please advise me. Thank you.
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The R172 will do, but the stp one technically will be better
 
Londo said:
I am looking to buy about 30+M of Ethernet cable CAT6 to connect my router to my inverter, running it in conduit under the eaves. I will connect to the router and install the cable to the inverter. I am then going to get the guy who installed my solar to make the connection to the inverter, after trimming the cord to length and attaching a RJ45 plug.

The local IT company charges R12/m for CAT6 and will add to RJ45 Plugs at R3/each. So R366 for 30m with 2 plugs. No other info on the cable but it is the one they use for their installations so it has to be good, or at least adequate.

Having read this thread and checking online I see this:

Microworld 30m CAT6 Network Flylead - Light Grey R172 incl. VAT BEST BUY But is it the right one?
www.geewiz.co.za

Microworld 30m CAT6 Network Flylead - Light Grey

Microworld CAT6 Network Flylead Length - 30m Colour - Light Grey
www.geewiz.co.za www.geewiz.co.za

30 Meter STP CAT6E Network Cable up to 1Gbit/s LAN Cable – Precrimped and tested R329.00
www.hdcabling.co.za

30 Meter STP / Screened CAT6E Network Cable Up To 1Gbit/s LAN Cable – Precrimped And Tested

30 Meter STP / Screened CAT6E Network Cable up to 1Gbit/s LAN Cable – Precrimped and tested 30 Meter STP / Screened CAT6E Network Cable up to 1Gbit/s LAN
www.hdcabling.co.za www.hdcabling.co.za

I don't want to buy some inferior product as I want to do the job once and have a hasslefree connection I can forget about. But why is one cable about half the price of the other 2? What am I missing? What do I need?

Please advise me. Thank you.
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The second cable is encapsulated in foil, polyester and mesh shielding (the STP part), which is why it is more expensive. It helps to prevent electrical interference from affecting data that is in transit.
If you look at the pictures you will see that the first cable's connectors are normal see-though plastic. The second cable has metal plating around the connector.
It greatly depends on the environment where the cable is located.
For example, in a factory with heavy machinery you definitely need STP cable, but inside a home's roof you can get away with just normal cable placed in conduit.

I see that you want to place the cable under the eaves, keep in mind that excessive heat can also degrade the performance of the cable, regardless of the surrounding protection.
 
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Sagax said:
The second cable is encapsulated in foil, polyester and mesh shielding (the STP part), which is why it is more expensive. It helps to prevent electrical interference from affecting data that is in transit.
If you look at the pictures you will see that the first cable's connectors are normal see-though plastic. The second cable has metal plating around the connector.
It greatly depends on the environment where the cable is located.
For example, in a factory with heavy machinery you definitely need STP cable, but inside a home's roof you can get away with just normal cable placed in conduit.

I see that you want to place the cable under the eaves, keep in mind that excessive heat can also degrade the performance of the cable, regardless of the surrounding protection.
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Thank you for the informative reply. The cable will be some distance below the roof so excessive heat won't be an issue.

If I went with the more expensive STP cable what would be the result of trimming it for length and replacing the one connector with a basic cheap one at the inverter end? Or is it better not to trim the length?
 
Londo said:
Thank you for the informative reply. The cable will be some distance below the roof so excessive heat won't be an issue.

If I went with the more expensive STP cable what would be the result of trimming it for length and replacing the one connector with a basic cheap one at the inverter end? Or is it better not to trim the length?
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I would advise against cutting the prefab cable.
Some slack in the cable is always good, in case things change or relocate in the future.

Although there is a colour standard for the internal cabling, companies making prefab network cables don't always adhere to this standard. Since the cables in the connectors are mostly obscured by shielding it might be difficult or impossible to see which cable must go where when refitting a connector. Not worth the effort or risk to be honest.

The STP cable needs to be grounded for the shield to be 100% effective, as electrical build up in the foil/mesh needs to discharge somewhere. That is another reason the connectors also has metal plating, apart from shielding the last bit of wire at the ends. So replacing one of the shielded connectors with a normal unshielded one will negate the effectiveness of the shield around the cable.

Since this cable is located outside I would also advise that you look into getting a lightning arrestor (or two, for both ends), something like this. Cheaper to replace than the expensive equipment that the cable is attached to.
 
Sagax said:
I would advise against cutting the prefab cable.
Some slack in the cable is always good, in case things change or relocate in the future.

Although there is a colour standard for the internal cabling, companies making prefab network cables don't always adhere to this standard. Since the cables in the connectors are mostly obscured by shielding it might be difficult or impossible to see which cable must go where when refitting a connector. Not worth the effort or risk to be honest.

The STP cable needs to be grounded for the shield to be 100% effective, as electrical build up in the foil/mesh needs to discharge somewhere. That is another reason the connectors also has metal plating, apart from shielding the last bit of wire at the ends. So replacing one of the shielded connectors with a normal unshielded one will negate the effectiveness of the shield around the cable.

Since this cable is located outside I would also advise that you look into getting a lightning arrestor (or two, for both ends), something like this. Cheaper to replace than the expensive equipment that the cable is attached to.
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Here's the plan (with questions):

30M Outdoor Cat5e Flylead
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30M Outdoor Cat5e Flylead

TC-FLY30, UV Shielded flylead by Linkbasic is a category 5e, outdoor lead with an integrated ESD drain wire. It will protect your network from the most brutal environments and from devastating electrostatic discharge (ESD) attacks.
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Caveat in the reviews on Geewiz: "if you want to make tight 90 degree bends, this doesn't flex easily. (not a soft cable)"
QUESTION: I will be running the cable in trunking conduit (rectangular). I assume that 90 degree turns of the conduit will allow sufficient space for the cable to turn a "loose" 90 degrees?


UGreen 20158 CAT6 UTP Round LAN 0.5m Cable-BK x 2

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Clearline Gigabit Single Port RJ45 Lightning & Surge Protector (Non -POE) x2

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QUESTION: Am I correct about Non-POE? Seems logical as no power is being carried. I have written asking to Clearline but no reply to date.

So:
Router>0.5m cable>Surge suppressor>30m cable>Surge suppressor>0.5m cable>Inverter
 
Londo said:
Caveat in the reviews on Geewiz: "if you want to make tight 90 degree bends, this doesn't flex easily. (not a soft cable)"
QUESTION: I will be running the cable in trunking conduit (rectangular). I assume that 90 degree turns of the conduit will allow sufficient space for the cable to turn a "loose" 90 degrees?
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The standard for Cat5e is that the bend radius should be 4x the cable diameter for UTP and 8x the diameter for STP.

It's easy to bend UTP tighter with no real effect, but your cable is going to be a lot stiffer and you also run the risk of damaging the shielding. It's nothing compared to installing shielded Cat6 though, that's properly unpleasant.

Why do you need STP? If you really do then fibre might be a better option for roughly the same cost.
 
Take the lightning comments seriously.
I lost a TV and AVR from a nearby lightning strike that induced a massive voltage in the HDMI cable joining them.
 
Londo said:
Here's the plan (with questions):

30M Outdoor Cat5e Flylead
www.geewiz.co.za

30M Outdoor Cat5e Flylead

TC-FLY30, UV Shielded flylead by Linkbasic is a category 5e, outdoor lead with an integrated ESD drain wire. It will protect your network from the most brutal environments and from devastating electrostatic discharge (ESD) attacks.
www.geewiz.co.za www.geewiz.co.za

Caveat in the reviews on Geewiz: "if you want to make tight 90 degree bends, this doesn't flex easily. (not a soft cable)"
QUESTION: I will be running the cable in trunking conduit (rectangular). I assume that 90 degree turns of the conduit will allow sufficient space for the cable to turn a "loose" 90 degrees?
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It's a bit difficult to give a proper recommendation without seeing the route that the cable will travel. So regard the below advice as more of a "general" type.

Rectangular trunking's corners will most likely be too tight for STP cable, though with 25x40mm trunking you might just barely get away with it. Using 40x40mm conduit will definitely work, but is a huge piece of conduit for a single cable.
Outside corners will be easier, since you can cut the bottom of the trunking and file the edge of the brick to make a smoother bend, which will be hidden behind the trunking if the edges are cut at 45 degree angles (top to bottom). Inside corners will be more difficult since there is no real way to soften the bend without exposing cable and making it look terrible. So depending on the route it might, or might not work out.

PVC pipe conduit might be a better solution, since smoother bends are available for it. You will need the 25mm pipe though, since the connector of the prefab cable won't fit in the 20mm pipe. Use a runner string to assist with pulling through the cable.

QUESTION: Am I correct about Non-POE?
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Yes, you are correct.

Router>0.5m cable>Surge suppressor>30m cable>Surge suppressor>0.5m cable>Inverter
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Yes, that is the correct setup.
 
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