Rehab again?

s0lar

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I am looking for a show of hands for those who have been to rehab and possibly a halfway house like myself. Before I go into the war stories. Rehab is a personal taste as anybody who has taken 6 weeks plus of their lives away from any form of contact with friends and loved ones will now.

Possibly the most emotional time of my life having to come face to face with my **** lifes choices and obviously resulting drug addiction square in the face, with each every person in my family and friend circle knowing exactly where I was. I still get "the disapproving looks" at family get-togethers, years later. In shorty fiancee at the time was booked into a separate clinic the same night, the last time I had seen before she was taken by ambulance, she was on the floor drifting in and out of consciousness, split personalities, dementia etc. It was a *****en scary time. The last I had heard of her she was having CAT scans and put on a sedative drip for a few days to stabilise the psychosis or whatever they called it. At the time I had no idea if the mother of my child was dead or alive or if social workers would take our daughter away. In my paranoid haze I had an idea she was selling me out to save herself and our daughter! I was also due to appear in court for drug related charges which the rehab centre would not let me attend as I might have used the opportunity to use. To top it off the Doc at the rehab centre pointed out I had developed a inoperable heart murmur to take for the rest of my life as well as a few STD's. Who can forget the pissed off (jealous) ex who heard I was in rehab and broke into my place at the same time and stole me blind!

Long story short, that was nearly three years ago. I have managed to hold my own relapsing every now and then, but nothing to the extent of what it was. That is until a couple of months ago.. Things are going back there. The first rehab was a emotional mess, fuelled by uncertainty of what and who would be there for me when I eventually came out.

My question to my fellow "recovering" addicts, is there any value in going back again? I met some really honest people there who really just wanted to end it all. Anybody who socialised with addicts will know what I mean. Everybody wants away out, but turn your back for a second and your "friend" will sell you out for a gram of their preference.

With that all on the go, (forgot to mention, my mother was diagnosed with cancer at the same time, not to mention her disappointment in me her only son). I had a lot on my mind the first time round that I was never really "there" besides the chemical haze . Any suggestions on alternatives? I know its a matter of time before I lose my family, job and then most likely my life. Maybe rehab is the way. iI less stuff is on the go at the same time.? Also I got a feel that the 12-steps has a cult type thing about it. A blind following if you will, I was pretty out of it during my time there. My counsellor refused me access to the medical staff treating my wife. Its all a bit fuzzy if I think back now. I still think he's a self absorbed ex-herion addict with a god complex for beating it!

That said, this time round the stakes are higher I have an awesome family, a upper executive management position in huge communications consortium. Life is mostly good. Children, wife, house, "picket fence" responsibilities etc. My Wife condones it, thinking I can handle it. Its becoming clear to us both it past being a manageable pass time months ago.

Suggestions, ideas? I am not all that keen on having to redo an excuse as to why I have taken a 6 week "sabbatical" again to friends and colleagues. I am not asking for a silver bullet , just honest two cents based on experience. Anybody affilated to a religious group or have a stake in a rehabiliation centre are single minded.. If I remember correctly my last stay cost me +R70k for 6 weeks. Rehab is a money game anybody who disagrees can somehow justify that kind of cost in a dorm on par with a dodgy hotel and "food" to match near prison standards, need their head read.. Do they give a **** or do I just try something else? I cant do the therapist thing as I have a lot to loose, should they see me an unfit father that will open another can of ****e. The social workers would probably take my wife down too for standing by and not doing anything about it with children in the house.
 
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Celine

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if you want your life sorted out then go back into rehab. these things should in a controlled environment. from what i've read it would seem that the drug use is not average usage and sometimes gets out of control. this means that to kick the habit you need trained medical staff at your side while you are going through all the symptoms of what ever happens when you start coming off these things.

i've never used drugs so i don't know but from my experience of coming off copious amounts of medication after taking them for almost a year, i can tell you it's not a joke. i decided to not take the pills and that was it and doing it "cold turkey" was hell.

and your impression of the counselor being an ex heroin user and now some god driven nut, just remember, he is there to help you through this. he has been there, done it and got the t-shirt. he's the one who will understand you and won't judge you for what you have done.

just my 5 cents.
 

Rocket Raccoon

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i've never used drugs so i don't know but from my experience of coming off copious amounts of medication after taking them for almost a year, i can tell you it's not a joke. i decided to not take the pills and that was it and doing it "cold turkey" was hell.

:confused:
 

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It's sad what you going through... in all honesty i have had friends who went to rehab more than once, infact, a couple of times and it did not help them, they were in too deep... they stopped after they came out, but then started again...

My advise, as i have seen with them, influence seems to be the biggest problem with addiction, i dont know if this is your case( friends joining you or supplying you), but if you can eliminate or let go of whatever is spurring you on, after a few weeks it would be much easier to let go of your addiction...

Try and spend more time with your family, spend some quality time with them eg, put the kids to bed(dont know how old they are), put on youtube and dance crazy, watch movies together, help them with their homework... spend more time at home with them(limit going out)... leave the cellphone out of arms length when at home... take on a hobby that you actually like, try new things like hiking, swimming classes, racing, go on family getaways eg, a weekend away to a resort like sun city, warmbaths(dont know your location)...

try and fill your life with purpose, and find your happy place(not drugs happy place)... have your friends and family over for lunch, braais, supper, or even to watch a sport or just to socialize....

I am sorry for this kind of troubles... if you need to talk to someone(a complete outsider), you are more than welcomed to PM me to vent, talk, send lol cat pics:D

all the best, hope you find the answer your'e looking for...
 

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It's sad what you going through... in all honesty i have had friends who went to rehab more than once, infact, a couple of times and it did not help them, they were in too deep... they stopped after they came out, but then started again...

My advise, as i have seen with them, influence seems to be the biggest problem with addiction, i dont know if this is your case( friends joining you or supplying you), but if you can eliminate or let go of whatever is spurring you on, after a few weeks it would be much easier to let go of your addiction...

Try and spend more time with your family, spend some quality time with them eg, put the kids to bed(dont know how old they are), put on youtube and dance crazy, watch movies together, help them with their homework... spend more time at home with them(limit going out)... leave the cellphone out of arms length when at home... take on a hobby that you actually like, try new things like hiking, swimming classes, racing, go on family getaways eg, a weekend away to a resort like sun city, warmbaths(dont know your location)...

try and fill your life with purpose, and find your happy place(not drugs happy place)... have your friends and family over for lunch, braais, supper, or even to watch a sport or just to socialize....

I am sorry for this kind of troubles... if you need to talk to someone(a complete outsider), you are more than welcomed to PM me to vent, talk, send lol cat pics:D

all the best, hope you find the answer your'e looking for...

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i've always been of the opinion that one should be treated in one's usual environment, and thus be equipped to deal with anything you may be subjected to, or tempted by.

to my mind, rehab facilities remove you from that environment only temporarily, and once out of rehab, you are back on the street & having to now cope having just come from a sheltered environment.
 

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Also, if you have been in a rehab before all that it does is give you a dry out period.

I was lucky enough to be able to leave the province completely and broke enough not to be able to make any other plans.
 

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1. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and take responsibility for your own actions.
2. Stop blaming others (and the world) for your own bad decisions.
3. It will cost you a lot more than 70k if you don't go.
4. Admit that you're a devious manipulative bastard... just like the rest of the addicts you've met and despise.

Then maybe you will be ready to change.
 

BobsLawnService

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Yep, if the previous rock bottom wasn't rock bottom enough then there is no hope for you.

May as well blow your brains out, junkie.
 

mooks

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It took me 7 stints in rehab, over a period of 10yrs, before I finally got it together. I'm now around 5yrs clean - before now the longest period was 2yrs-ish (it's hard to tell, lots of fuzzy memories).

Never give up, keep trying, keeping going back whenever you need help, keep up with the brutal honesty it takes to make amends, make peace and make good.


As for NA, I love and hate the place. There is so much about the programme that is really amazing and there is also a megaton of absolute horse**** and high school politics. As long as you are gaining more from the experience than you're losing, I say keep a it. Even if only to be surrounded by people who get it.

Good luck xx
 

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As for NA, I love and hate the place. There is so much about the programme that is really amazing and there is also a megaton of absolute horse**** and high school politics. As long as you are gaining more from the experience than you're losing, I say keep a it. Even if only to be surrounded by people who get it.

Good luck xx


There was a stage a few years back when it was "cool" to be in NA.
Ppl were showing me their key chains and bracelets as though it was very hip and cool to be in rehab.

As they grew up and the drugs became harder the coolness factor died down pretty fast.
 
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I don't really post a lot but just my 2c from the viewpoint of a family member giving "the disapproving looks". Grow some balls and leave the ****. You have already ****ed up your parents life enough and nothing you will will ever do will make that right, but the least you can do is to get get clean and not screw up their lives anymore.
 

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I don't really post a lot but just my 2c from the viewpoint of a family member giving "the disapproving looks". Grow some balls and leave the ****. You have already ****ed up your parents life enough and nothing you will will ever do will make that right, but the least you can do is to get get clean and not screw up their lives anymore.

Do you understand addiction?
I had many very good friends including a best friend that died from an OD after coming out of rehab clean.
Addiction is not something you scoff at and act like it's an easy choice for the op to make.

Let alone the fact that relapses are often 100X worse than when you were taking the drugs regularly.
Even if a rehabilitated drug abuser is clean, the risks are very real that they can relapse and OD.

Rather support them and don't alienate them.
 
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Do you understand addiction?
I had many very good friends including a best friend that died from an OD after coming out of rehab clean.
Addiction is not something you scoff at and act like it's an easy choice for the op to make.

Let alone the fact that relapses are often 100X worse than when you were taking the drugs regularly.
Even if a rehabilitated drug abuser is clean, the risks are very real that they can relapse and OD.

Rather support them and don't alienate them.

I believe that it is difficult while on drugs to leave it, but once you are clean and then decide to relapse, knowing that the result will be the same as the previous time, you have lost all my support.
 
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