Rehab again?

[Electric]

I believe that it is difficult while on drugs to leave it, but once you are clean and then decide to relapse, knowing that the result will be the same as the previous time, you have lost all my support.

It's not always a conscious decision though.
Quite often the addiction remains after rehab but the coping mechanisms are in place to avoid succumbing.
Everyone doesn't have the same will power as a result they will relapse.
You do need to understand that in many instances the relapse is not meant to harm anyone other than themselves.
Addicts know this and don't think of the repercussions in many instances because they have trained themselves to be very self-centered individuals solely focused on getting "hammered".

I honestly believe that very few 'decisions' are actually made when it comes to relapsing.
Which is why I believe very strongly in maintaining a good support structure for addicts.

 

[AstroTurf]

I believe that it is difficult while on drugs to leave it, but once you are clean and then decide to relapse, knowing that the result will be the same as the previous time, you have lost all my support.

Someone should explain reward pathways to you...
Specifically Mesolimbic and Mesocortical pathways...

Also, serotonin pathway? (can't remember the name, it's been a looong time since I had to analyse my addictions).

 

[Datura]

Go back. You've made the decision, just need to follow it through.

Side note: You never met any honest addicts/recovering addicts in rehab. We are the biggest liars in the world when we use and that does not just go away when we go to rehab. ALL OF US!!!

 

[Datura]

I believe that it is difficult while on drugs to leave it, but once you are clean and then decide to relapse, knowing that the result will be the same as the previous time, you have lost all my support.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Stop talking. Go educate yourself.

 

[justanotherguy]

You have no idea what you are talking about. Stop talking. Go educate yourself.

I think I have more of an idea what I'm talking than most members on this forum. As I have stated, I talk from the perspective of the family member.

I actually have first hand experience with this, with a family member that relapsed about 5-6 times, and I have seen what it does to a family. I really don't care why they do it, and reward patways etc. the fact is that they screw up other people's lifes and really don't even care about it.

 

[Sensorei]

1. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and take responsibility for your own actions.
2. Stop blaming others (and the world) for your own bad decisions.
3. It will cost you a lot more than 70k if you don't go.
4. Admit that you're a devious manipulative bastard... just like the rest of the addicts you've met and despise.

Then maybe you will be ready to change.

Good answer, and spot on.

Get off the pity potty, take responsibility, and look at the pain you cause the people close to you. That's all they really try to hammer into you in rehab.

 

[AstroTurf]

I really don't care why they do it, and reward patways etc.

Then you are a big part of the problem.

 

[Electric]

Addiction is a pity potty?

 

[Datura]

My fscking word. Not even going to entertain you ignorant *******s!

OP: If you are slipping, just go back! Fsck what people will think of you for going to rehab afterwards, try focus on what they will think if you slip more and eventually can no longer cover it all up with lies. Your life has become unmanageable! Manage it. Go today if you can!

 

[AstroTurf]

My fscking word. Not even going to entertain you ignorant *******s!

OP: If you are slipping, just go back! Fsck what people will think of you for going to rehab afterwards, try focus on what they will think if you slip more and eventually can no longer cover it all up with lies. Your life has become unmanageable! Manage it. Go today if you can!

Naltrexone implants are also a viable and workable solution.

 

[Electric]

Oh, FYI. It's a pity party not a pity potty.

 

[Slootvreter]

I've got a friend who's going back for the third time. No sympathy anymore from me.

 

[AstroTurf]

I've got a friend who's going back for the third time. No sympathy anymore from me.

Does not need or want your sympathy, does not even want your trust (cause he can't trust himself right now).

I would say the only thing he would want from you right now is is a sounding board.

 

[Brenden_E]

Go back. Trying to "cover it up" from the outside world makes it worse. It's actually better if your ego takes a bit of a knock.
Going back and using again is something to be ashamed off especially if you have kids (god damn). And the only cure is to admit it, deal with the underlying problems and move forward from there.

Source: more junkie friends/body bags than I can count.

 

[Gnome]

I think you'll find anyone who has worked hard in life for what they have will have little respect for an addict.

They made their choice and gave into weakness, then the constant relapses followed by the general criminal behavior.

The only way to end drug addiction is to give drug addicts hard time in prison. Rehab is far too much of a pity party and it is so "cool". I mean I think that is a big attraction to kids that don't have direction.

I mean I can understand if you got addicted to something because of a medical condition and bad prescriptions but if you are a heroin user, I feel very little sympathy.

I know I'll get a lot of hate for this post but I've had a lot of exposure to drug addicts and I honestly haven't found a person there that has every inspired me or struck me as someone who actually wants to accomplish something in life which I find hard to respect.

 

[Slootvreter]

Does not need or want your sympathy, does not even want your trust (cause he can't trust himself right now).

I would say the only thing he would want from you right now is is a sounding board.

After stealing from me quite a few times, he won't even get a handshake.

 

[satanboy]

Yep, if the previous rock bottom wasn't rock bottom enough then there is no hope for you.

May as well blow your brains out, junkie.

Really uncalled for.

 

[Slootvreter]

They made their choice and gave into weakness, then the constant relapses followed by the general criminal behavior.

Correct.

 

[Electric]

I think you'll find anyone who has worked hard in life for what they have will have little respect for an addict.

They made their choice and gave into weakness, then the constant relapses followed by the general criminal behavior.

The only way to end drug addiction is to give drug addicts hard time in prison. Rehab is far too much of a pity party and it is so "cool". I mean I think that is a big attraction to kids that don't have direction.

I mean I can understand if you got addicted to something because of a medical condition and bad prescriptions but if you are a heroin user, I feel very little sympathy.

I know I'll get a lot of hate for this post but I've had a lot of exposure to drug addicts and I honestly haven't found a person there that has every inspired me or struck me as someone who actually wants to accomplish something in life which I find hard to respect.

I think you'll find that you're wrong.

 

[AstroTurf]

After stealing from me quite a few times, he won't even get a handshake.

It's difficult to separate the person from the addiction but personally I think that at this time all you would be doing is opening yourself to being used again so good choice.