Funny how paleontology was seen as the "field" to judge evolution until evolution lost to the fossil record. Then when paleontologists started all admitting that the fossil record can't confirm evolution and that it supports something else entirely they were brushed aside and biology became THE "field" for evolution until it lost to it. Then biologists were brushed aside and genetics became THE "field." When people are so selective and inconsistent they have just lost all credibility.
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It's nobody's fault. Some people don't get it. Never will. That's how evolution works. There will always be overlap of species who are failing due to natural selection and those who are successfully adapting. If you then look closer at a species which appears to be succeeding, you will still find indications of characteristics which indicate a more out of date version. Some posters in mybb are proof of this. They are part of the human story which is being left behind. This is the story of human evolution. There will always be the unfortunate lot who still process information like they did thousands of years before. We should treasure them as relics. South Africa seems to have more than most countries. Should be be able to make some money of that.
porchrat
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The problem is the easy access to information.
With the rise of the Internet any idiot can now create a blog or distribute his pathetic videos on youtube. It is more important than ever that people be able to tell a reputable source of information from a poor one. Unfortunately I get the feeling that most people are like Ekstasis, they simply swallow crap from poor sources.
Tell us, what do you expect to see with creation?It's nobody's fault. Some people don't get it. Never will. That's how evolution works. There will always be overlap of species who are failing due to natural selection and those who are successfully adapting. If you then look closer at a species which appears to be succeeding, you will still find indications of characteristics which indicate a more out of date version. Some posters in mybb are proof of this. They are part of the human story which is being left behind. This is the story of human evolution. There will always be the unfortunate lot who still process information like they did thousands of years before. We should treasure them as relics. South Africa seems to have more than most countries. Should be be able to make some money of that.
It's still shocking that with the easy access to information some people will still claim that it's a problem with understanding.
"If we do not accept the hypothesis of spontaneous generation, then at this one point in the history of evolution we must have recourse to the miracle of a supernatural creation." - Ernst Haeckel
Why must science have recourse to a miracle? I consider that cheating.
alloytoo
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It's the double edged sword, on the one hand we have unprecidented access to information at our fingertips, on the other, the opportunities to disseminate rubbish are also multiplied.
The ultimate challenge for the 21st century is cutting the wheat from the chaff.
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but people who have faith (in anything) are blinded by their own beliefs and they will continue to spread their poison for a quick buck or because they are brainwashed by the nonsense.
No amount of evidence will change their perspective.
If god came down tomorrow and invited me for a braai and beer and said "hey im god check me move the moon etc" then ya i might be inclined to change my perspective
No amount of evidence will change their perspective.
If god came down tomorrow and invited me for a braai and beer and said "hey im god check me move the moon etc" then ya i might be inclined to change my perspective
What are you talking about when you talk about "faith" and "God"? It may be that you just have a different definition/view of these concepts than other people who are religious.
"Hardcore critics who've adopted a zero-concession policy toward intelligent design are still worth engaging, but we need to control the terms of engagement. Whenever I engage them, the farthest thing from my mind is to convert them, to win them over, to appeal to their good will, to make my cause seem reasonable in their eyes. We need to set wishful thinking firmly to one side. The point is not to induce a cognitive shift in our critics, but instead to clarify our arguments, to address weaknesses in our own position, to identify areas requiring further work and study, and, perhaps most significantly, to appeal to the undecided middle that is watching this debate and trying to sort through the issues."
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DrJohnZoidberg
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Just ignore him.
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rubytox
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Interesting discussion.
What you're saying is true although I would not exactly call it poison. My mom is a devout Christian. It used to irritate me no end because she would say things that make no sense to me. She is getting old, so I've had to adjust my thought patterns and accept her as is, beliefs and all. It makes her happy and she is at peace with herself. If angels do exist, then that is what I see on mom's face. She has aged a lot but to me she is simply beautiful. True, I ignore most of the religious sms messages. She means well and irrespective of our different opinions about God and the Universe, it is the idea that she is praying for me that makes me want to hug her.