You know, I definitely feel this thread has kind of progressed where we have two camps of people arguing against each other. Sixty percent of both camps (i.e. the sides closest to each other) are actually pretty reasonable people who really ought to be agreeing ... it's only the extreme 40% from each side (and I'm honestly not even sure if SaoirseB and myself even a tenth as 'extreme' as the opposite extreme has painted us) who keep adding fuel to the fire (some seriously and some just for giggles).
I'm prepared to call a truce with anybody who agrees on the following core principles:
1: Mybroadband should not condone misandry or misogyny.
2: Whenever men and women in a relationship based on trust disagree on something, both sides have a responsibility to discuss the issue openly and with respect.
3: Both men AND women should respect that there are times in relationships where partners do not behave in a perfectly rational manner, most often attributed to hurt incurred in a previous relationship. During this time, for the best interests of the relationship, it is time to 'man/woman' up and reach out to your partner with respect towards their vulnerabilities, rather than callous indignation.
Obviously excluded from the above are the extremes from both camps - 'Screw what you think, if I'm in a relationship this is me, and ain't nobody gonna ask me to change' comes to mind - but I think it's a start. At least we can see if the opposing 'camps' can actually agree.