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Need to replace the brake discs, pads and clutch on an '05 renault Clio 2.

r1600 for the brakes and almost r5000 for the clutch. Thats r6600, about 30% of the car's value....

Anyone know cheaper places? Those prices are from Centoria brake and clutch and the guy close to car service city who specialises in french cars(both in centurion)
 
Nangi said:
Need to replace the brake discs, pads and clutch on an '05 renault Clio 2.

r1600 for the brakes and almost r5000 for the clutch. Thats r6600, about 30% of the car's value....

Anyone know cheaper places? Those prices are from Centoria brake and clutch and the guy close to car service city who specialises in french cars(both in centurion)
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That isn't too bad pricing. Clutch replacement at the Dealerships is close to R10k.
 
Nangi said:
Need to replace the brake discs, pads and clutch on an '05 renault Clio 2.

r1600 for the brakes and almost r5000 for the clutch. Thats r6600, about 30% of the car's value....

Anyone know cheaper places? Those prices are from Centoria brake and clutch and the guy close to car service city who specialises in french cars(both in centurion)
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First of all.... HAHA! You bought a Renault! HAHA!

Secondly, those prices don't look terrible. R1,600 for discs and pads at the front or the rear?
 
That's about the going rate for the kinf of work you want done. It could be a lot more at a stealership.

French cars have such abysmal resale values for a reason.
 
What does the clutch take with it when it goes? Reason im asking is because I can just keep the 5k saved up till it does go, maybe itl hold on til the end of the car's life...
 
Normally nothing, but it can damage the transmission
 
Meteor said:
That's about the going rate for the kinf of work you want done. It could be a lot more at a stealership.

French cars have such abysmal resale values for a reason.
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Not sure I understand this. You, and most others, say this is the going rate and then go on to ridicule Renault. What am I missing?

The car is also going on for 10 years old so presumably your comments can't be about these parts needing replacing in this period of time.

Resale values are seemingly based on subjective criteria and a fickle SA public. I was shocked to read the other day that Volvo's have bad resale values in this country too. Why?!
 
Dubes said:
Not sure I understand this. You, and most others, say this is the going rate and then go on to ridicule Renault. What am I missing?

The car is also going on for 10 years old so presumably your comments can't be about these parts needing replacing in this period of time.

Resale values are seemingly based on subjective criteria and a fickle SA public. I was shocked to read the other day that Volvo's have bad resale values in this country too. Why?!
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Because it's not a VW or Toyota.
 
Dubes said:
Not sure I understand this. You, and most others, say this is the going rate and then go on to ridicule Renault. What am I missing?

The car is also going on for 10 years old so presumably your comments can't be about these parts needing replacing in this period of time.

Resale values are seemingly based on subjective criteria and a fickle SA public. I was shocked to read the other day that Volvo's have bad resale values in this country too. Why?!
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You are perfectly correct - sadly most European cars (French/Italian/Swedish) have shocking resale values - any German make will hold its value considerably more than any of the others, and it has nothing to do with the cars, and everything to do with their record of poor service in SA, as well as the fact that South Africans have memories like elephants when it comes to anything negative about a car.

Same as the usual BS about Alfas that they "all" rust - yes, but that was back in the 70's and things have changed, but not in the mind of the average SA "gentleman" who usually dishes out his expert opinion with one arm on the pub counter and a beer in the other hand. Peugeot/Renault/Citroen are great cars with crappy reputations, end of story.
 
Fazda said:
Peugeot/Renault/Citroen are great cars with crappy reputations, end of story.
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Tell us about their Dealer support network compared to the big boys (Toyota and VW specifically)? Tell about their parts cost compared to the big boys? And parts availability?

There are new Renaults I wouldn't mind owning, but not in this country.
 
TehStranger said:
Tell us about their Dealer support network compared to the big boys (Toyota and VW specifically)? Tell about their parts cost compared to the big boys? And parts availability?

There are new Renaults I wouldn't mind owning, but not in this country.
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I was speaking to a C4 owner on Monday and he was raving about service, and parts availablity and cost in Durban. He has a 2006 C4 that has done 150 000 odd k's and has nothing but good things to say about it and the dealers. In that time, he has replaced one coil and the boot switch. His cambelt job was way cheaper than most, so maybe, Durban is the place to own a Frenchie! :D
 
Fazda said:
I was speaking to a C4 owner on Monday and he was raving about service, and parts availablity and cost in Durban. He has a 2006 C4 that has done 150 000 odd k's and has nothing but good things to say about it and the dealers. In that time, he has replaced one coil and the boot switch. His cambelt job was way cheaper than most, so maybe, Durban is the place to own a Frenchie! :D
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Heh, perhaps, but that means I'd have to move to Durban, no thanks. :p

Seeing the frenchies' low sales volume in the country, and their limited dealer network, and their stupid parts waiting time (have two mates with Renaults, a Modus and a Megane Hatch, that spent weeks waiting for parts) is enough to put me off them here, and advise against buying them. Particularly second hand older models.
 
Fazda said:
I was speaking to a C4 owner on Monday and he was raving about service, and parts availablity and cost in Durban. He has a 2006 C4 that has done 150 000 odd k's and has nothing but good things to say about it and the dealers. In that time, he has replaced one coil and the boot switch. His cambelt job was way cheaper than most, so maybe, Durban is the place to own a Frenchie! :D
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I stay just out of Durban and have had my 07 Clio 3 for just over a year now (actually bought it and drove it up from the cape) No problems whatsoever as yet. Love it :love: The new clio RS -I'd kill for
 
Fazda said:
not in the mind of the average SA "gentleman" who usually dishes out his expert opinion with one arm on the pub counter and a beer in the other hand.
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This is it!

TehStranger said:
Tell us about their Dealer support network compared to the big boys (Toyota and VW specifically)? Tell about their parts cost compared to the big boys? And parts availability?

There are new Renaults I wouldn't mind owning, but not in this country.
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Care to share your knowledge on this topic?

I have owned a Renault for 5 years. And it was 5 years old when I got it. I laughed every time someone told me about resale value even after hearing I bought it 2nd hand!

Every time I have had work done, and it was hardly any outside of services, I asked around for costs on mates vehicles for the same and it was never vastly different. I never had delays due to lack of parts. There is a dealer 4km from where I live. When needing emergency work done in Jhb there was a dealer less than 10km from where I was staying.

Am I just lucky?
 
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Just checked online as I do like facts.

I see 8 Renault dealers 13 VW dealers 29 Toyota dealers in KZN. Wow! Suppose they need those Toyota dealers catering for the farmers in the Midlands!

I see 10 Renault dealers 23 VW dealers 33 Toyota dealers in WC.

I see 19 Renault dealers 37 VW dealers 43 Toyota dealers in Gauteng.

So yeah, maybe this is why the KZN guys cannot see the issue. We don't really expect a dealer in every corner. "Similar" number of Renault and VW dealers here. You're not really going to battle to find either.

Edit: added in Toyota.
 
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Dubes said:
Care to share your knowledge on this topic?

I have owned a Renault for 5 years. And it was 5 years old when I got it. I laughed every time someone told me about resale value even after hearing I bought it 2nd hand!

Every time I have had work done, and it was hardly any outside of services, I asked around for costs on mates vehicles for the same and it was never vastly different. I never had delays due to lack of parts. There is a dealer 4km from where I live. When needing emergency work done in Jhb there was a dealer less than 10km from where I was staying.

Am I just lucky?
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It could be that you're just lucky, yes. Though Renault is better than the other two frenches. What car do you drive?

I'm friends with a few mechanics, some of which have worked for French brands. The stories of wait times they've mentioned for some parts were in the 4 to 6 weeks range, which is unacceptable IMHO. As previously mentioned, I have friends with french cars who have had near-constant issues with them at medium mileage (between 100,000 and 200,000kms).

Dealers in the main cities are fine, but when you're out in the sticks or travelling between major cities the network can be an issue. I'll see if I can dig up the dealer stats when I get home tonight with a breakdown of dealerships in SA.

As for the new car sales, there's always Naamsa. I see Renault had a decent month in February, but have a look if you will at Peugeot and Citroen.
 
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