Replace ADSL with Neotel:

Waaib

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(Cross/Re-posting because I think I posted in the wrong place earlier)

Go idea? Bad idea?

I have 312k ADSL from Telkom at home. I'm considering replacing it with Neotel. The usage will be 99% internet and 1% calls.
I've only read that neotel gives 157k speeds. Am I reading in the wrong place?

The coverage map on the Neotel site says I have 'Excellent Indoor' coverage for Internet but "No Coverage" for "Voice Services".
I'll need it to connect to 4 PC's using wifi.
I run a small business and need 24 hours internet access. So the plan is to cancel the ADSL stuff with Telkom and change to Neotel and over time start using the Neotel number as the primary business number.

Your views?
 
maybe 1st try neotel before you cancel adsl... I donno maybe a friend with neotel can try it at your place? you could get stuck with no internet and man does that suck...
 
I tried Neotel and the speeds were terrible. Voice services were good, cant complain there but internet is shoddy :/
 
Doesn't neotel "pause your internet" when the phone rings ? Also when i phone people with neotel from my cellphone i can barely hear them.
 
Waaib you said the magic words: You run a small business ... do not go Neotel then.

I'm on neotel for close to a year and its OK. I hate it when I'm working and then someone phones. There go my SSH connections.

If your looking to use it for your phonecalls, then go for it. But as soon as my 24mths are up I will look for another option for my Internet: Neoflex or 3G and rather get a dedicated Neotel phone for my calls.

I would even consider going back to Telkom just for my ADSL and keep my Neotel for my calls. The per second billing makes a difference.
 
Stay far, far away from Neotel - Prime that is.

Yes it does stop your internet when you are on the phone, Prime's upload speeds average slightly under a 56K Dial up modem (which they don't mention on their site).

Even when Neotel is performing decently the latency is high, DSL is still by far the best option in SA (in my opinion)

PS: The phone service is fine though - never had an issue with that.

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Just so you know I also run a small business and decided to do the same (Neotel instead of Telkom), after 2 weeks of using it I ordered ADSL again. The claimed upload speeds are 157kbps yes but I never reached anywhere near that.
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Most advice so far has been to approach with caution. I think I'm going to just leave it as is on Telkom. Thanks folks.
 
Most advice so far has been to approach with caution. I think I'm going to just leave it as is on Telkom. Thanks folks.


If you're looking for a replacement then maybe check out Telkom Wimax. Much more reliable, you can use your existing ADSL account with it. It's 512k and only cost R240. No upfront fee's (other than R500 odd for installation) and no contracts. It's month to month.

The speed equals that of ADSL, I've seen maybe 0.02% of packets drop with my connection. And I prefer the Telkom Wimax option above Neotel or any other provider because it terminates into their existing infrastructure.

If you want to make voice calls, there's an additional unit you can get from them, the techie told me that it won't cost extra and you get a normal Telkom phone number. But I doubt it as he wasn't sure (it is available though, making your entire phone line VOIP)

And unlike Neotel, the internet stays connected when you make or receive voice calls. Imagine being on the internet downloading something and someone phoning you dropping the entire download... No thanks.

I stick to a company who can provide quality and options.

If Neotel were to provide ADSL lines, I'd be first one to go.... :)
 
Neotel? Run for the hills!!! My brother and I both paid the price for early adopting Neotel Prime uncapped. They seem to have some good people up top but little if any competence to back the service up. We both showed "excellent" signal on their signal map. When our handsets arrived I was unable to connect to EVDO and my brother's signal was very very far from "excellent". It took me three months, many many logged calls and two handsets to finally find that they'd forgotten to activate the high speed data on my account, something I'd read on forums and had told them about since my very first call, but something they seemed insistent of being unaware of. Of course each call to the call centre had to start with the ceremonial running through the support hand book, reboot the computer, reboot the handset.

So finally I managed to get an EVDO connection and returned the one handset, then it seems they deactivated the wrong handset. Took another month to get my handset reactivated, all the while I was being promised that I wouldn't be paying for the service I wasn't receiving but the bills kept coming off my account though they were promising refunds, as they were for my brother who had zero signal but they were keeping him with Neotel by promising him no payment as an incentive to stay signed up while they got their act together.

I finally got a working EVDO signal after many months of no service cost me a good few thousand which was great for all of about a month before the signal started degrading. Funny, I checked their online signal map, I'd been demoted from "excellent" signal to the line between bad and no signal cutting my garden, it was then I decided to invest in an antenna, which I paid for myself from their supplier. After installation the RSSI was around 77 and I was almost satisfied again.

By now my brother had received his long awaited antenna from Neotel which made little if any improvement to his signal and because we had travelled to area of signal and tested his unit, Neotel now claimed that he couldn't have had no signal because there was use so they refused to refund him as promised, something he had confirmed at the time of them promising the refund would not be the case.

Well now my signal has degraded to unusable and Neotel's signal map now shows the "needs and antenna" area about 2km from where am and I am now completely void of signal with a RSSI of between 97 and 105 depending on prevailing weather conditions. My brother has managed to cancel his account, with his service being cut off the minute he cancelled his account even though their billing department carries on deducting a grand a month off his account. I have been on the phone to Neotel more times then I can count, with technical guys on a number of occasions it seems being unable to offer anything other then a software reboot which does nothing for my service.

Its now about time to cancel my account and I know I'm going to have to struggle with Neotel's apparent policy of stealing your money while wrapping you up in enough lies and red tape to never let you get to the bottom of it all. Thankfully their hideous service meant that their representative never pitched to collect my signed contract so they will be unable to furnish any proof of it though I doubt that will stop them from red taping me some more.

Neotel will be a very expensive mistake. You have no idea how much you can love your Telkom service when you become a Neotel user.

[EDIT]Oh yes, we've found emailing their call centre is also useless, the best way to get any response out of Neotel is to post on hellopeter [/EDIT]
 
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