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what is it these people do that they so desperately want to hide from authorities ?
 
abandonallhope said:
what is it these people do that they so desperately want to hide from authorities ?
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It's not about what you are doing that you shouldn't be doing. It's about the principal of Governments respecting our privacy. Doesn't it make you slightly angered if you think that your private messages you send to your significant other is being dumped into some database where some thrid party can retrieve it if they really wanted to?

Here's another thing. Say you are for some reason wrongfully accused of something and now they go to exteme lengths to dig up dirt on you because of some stupid joke you made 10 years ago. It's not always about the whats, it's also about the ifs.

I mean if you are happy with the recent events unfolding revealing mass spying all over the globe and companies basically being forced to hand over their encryption keys, and this doesn't bother you the slightest. Maybe you don't mind that they have been lying to us for years, telling us that there has been no mass spy programmes going on. If this is truly the case, I feel sorry for you and others with a simlirar mentallity - because at some point privacy meant something to humans which cleary it no longer matters. If that is the case you may as well fashion a hole in your walls for your neighbors to see what you do behind closed doors.
 
quax said:
because at some point privacy meant something to humans which cleary it no longer matters. If that is the case you may as well fashion a hole in your walls for your neighbors to see what you do behind closed doors.
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THIS. It seems people think that online privacy doesn't matter when in fact we do more things online that should remain private. Probably because they think that they are anonymous and pieces of data can't be linked.
 
Nothing to hide... If this stops an attack or some serious criminal activity then I am all for spying...
 
Bosvark@ said:
Nothing to hide... If this stops an attack or some serious criminal activity then I am all for spying...
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I Highly doubt any serious terrorists would be so naive to use technology that is being monitored...
 
People who don't have anything to hide have never really lived a life.
 
Necuno said:
Do you pee with an open bathroom door?
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At home yes and what I do online has got fsuck all to do with the government. The only people they can successfully spy on is normal joe public. The real fsuckers are on another level security wise.
 
My biggest issue with collecting data/spying is that someone has managed to find this out. How long before what is being recorded is hacked and shared/sold to the highest bidder?

What you do is your business and should be private, you wouldn't allow a mic in your home would you?
 
Ipwn 4 said:
My biggest issue with collecting data/spying is that someone has managed to find this out. How long before what is being recorded is hacked and shared/sold to the highest bidder?

What you do is your business and should be private, you wouldn't allow a mic in your home would you?
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I should go back to android and get in that Thor network. If I remember correctly. Think that provides some privacy. Reckon apple has opened it's legs wide for the government. Imagine how much fingerprints with matching photos is stored somewhere in the us of fsuckn a!
 
abandonallhope said:
what is it these people do that they so desperately want to hide from authorities ?
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You should be kidding, privacy is just a basic human right whether you have something to hide or not. Mass surveillance is wrong in all forms
 
quax said:
It's not about what you are doing that you shouldn't be doing. It's about the principal of Governments respecting our privacy. Doesn't it make you slightly angered if you think that your private messages you send to your significant other is being dumped into some database where some thrid party can retrieve it if they really wanted to?

Here's another thing. Say you are for some reason wrongfully accused of something and now they go to exteme lengths to dig up dirt on you because of some stupid joke you made 10 years ago. It's not always about the whats, it's also about the ifs.

I mean if you are happy with the recent events unfolding revealing mass spying all over the globe and companies basically being forced to hand over their encryption keys, and this doesn't bother you the slightest. Maybe you don't mind that they have been lying to us for years, telling us that there has been no mass spy programmes going on. If this is truly the case, I feel sorry for you and others with a simlirar mentallity - because at some point privacy meant something to humans which cleary it no longer matters. If that is the case you may as well fashion a hole in your walls for your neighbors to see what you do behind closed doors.
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Apparently facebook can READ any message SENT FROM or RECEIVED by any user ... and they don't need your consent either ...
 
Bosvark@ said:
Nothing to hide... If this stops an attack or some serious criminal activity then I am all for spying...
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They should round up people with this attitude and send them to death camps.
 
noxibox said:
They should round up people with this attitude and send them to death camps.
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Ah I see the right to privacy is of utmost importance to you, yet the right to have ones own opinion is not.Okay then. Care to give us more of your viewpoints so I may align myself with them lest I be sent to a death camp.
 
quax said:
It's not about what you are doing that you shouldn't be doing. It's about the principal of Governments respecting our privacy. Doesn't it make you slightly angered if you think that your private messages you send to your significant other is being dumped into some database where some thrid party can retrieve it if they really wanted to?

Here's another thing. Say you are for some reason wrongfully accused of something and now they go to exteme lengths to dig up dirt on you because of some stupid joke you made 10 years ago. It's not always about the whats, it's also about the ifs.

I mean if you are happy with the recent events unfolding revealing mass spying all over the globe and companies basically being forced to hand over their encryption keys, and this doesn't bother you the slightest. Maybe you don't mind that they have been lying to us for years, telling us that there has been no mass spy programmes going on. If this is truly the case, I feel sorry for you and others with a simlirar mentallity - because at some point privacy meant something to humans which cleary it no longer matters. If that is the case you may as well fashion a hole in your walls for your neighbors to see what you do behind closed doors.
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I understand your sentiment, and I do appreciate it, but I just get so very tired of all the hippies and nerds who only see one side of the coin.

If you want to organise a coup, don't send out all the details via gmail...
 
And the fact that the NSA has used some of this mass spying on companies the world over for industrial espionage to give some US companies an advantage doesn't bother you at all?

I suppose you also believe that your current government is squeaky clean and would never use the surveillance of its citizens to weed out or harass dissenters or opposition, as many dictatorships and corrupt governments love to do?
 
People really worry about on-line privacy... but those same people post their entire life on facebook or twitter

Really if I were a spy.. i would just look on facebook or twitter.. you will find everything you need to know..

By reading someones facebook profile, you can see their movements, what they stand for and who they are connected too.. so easy spying there.

Thats why I am not on facebook or on twitter.
 
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Bosvark@ said:
Nothing to hide... If this stops an attack or some serious criminal activity then I am all for spying...
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OK. The sites you visit and searches you do may be shared with other government agencies, banks, your employers, insurers and foreign embassies. You want to work overseas? It seems you have an unhealthy addiction for women's underwear.... ergo you're a pervert. So no visa for you. Or you're doing a lot of searches on the web associated with fast food, you must eat unhealthily, let's deny that insurance application or jack up your rates. Your emails and cell phone conversations speak of negative attitudes toward authority X? Maybe you need a tax audit.

As attributed by some to Cardinal Richelieu, "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him. "
 
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