Revolution is coming

Keeper said:
sigh.....

Think of the bitcoin system.
Did anyone get interest on their bitcoins? did anyone pay banking fee's? any transfer costs from person to person? was there any operational costs?
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From the Johan Joubert Community:
There are still many people who don't quite believe this statement: "when a bank makes a loan, new money is created." The banks call call them "loans" in all their advertising, but people need to get this: they are not loans at all.

If you are still not a believer, then this video from the international TEDx seminar will make it clear. It also happens to be a very good video on an alternative money system.

What he suggests is a bitcoin-like system.

Prof. Franz Hörmann - Society 2.0 - Entering a World Without Money
 
VioAdmin said:
lol you know that anyone who owns a domain can do this right?

Example, I can buy Gozzy.com and redirect it to NSA.gov as well.
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Yeah I am aware of that, but as much as you want to belive this is BS it isnt... I know I might get flamed for this, but here goes:

We are getting closer and closer to the new world order.

Here's my view:
It kind of started alerting me with the whole RICA thing...I was in Bahrain when this happened, and guess what it Happened there too... more or less the same time..basically what this means is that they want to be in control...who here doesn't have a cellphone? its a stepping stone to the so called RFID Chip implants coming our way (I WISH I AM WRONG) according to e NSA.GOV's website there's already documentation on it (Limited ofcourse -> http://www.nsa.gov/research/_files/tech_transfers/wideband_mixer.pdf) they want to take control of everything, the oil, the banks, turn it into a NEW WORLD ORDER and a ONE WORLD GOVERMENT, their aim is to chip everybody with this RFID chip, and with this CHIP you will be able to trade etc... obviously it will be the total opposite without it, which will kind of force a lot of people to get it...same thing they did with the RICA story, get RICA'd or you will be cut off, same principle applies to this chip, like I said before I HOPE I AM WRONG, but this is me sitting and watching on the sideline, I can go on and on but I know that most people dont like hearing this bad news and will ignore this, just know that you have been warned, atleast do some digging of your own to paint a more clearer picture.

I can go on and on...but do some digging as well, we are blinded by the entertainment industry, and we need to wake up and smell the coffee coz this stuff is happening right infront of us but we choose to ignore it... the new e-tolls are aimed for the same reasons, control, money and tracking.

Do the math...we are getting closer and closer of being puppets for the elite and most of us don't even notice it, its happening right in front of our eyes but we choose to IGNORE it completely, before ignoring just DIG you will find a lot of PUZZLE pieces that you can put together yourselves...don't need to be a rocket scientist.

My personal view...use it dont use it, but dont say you haven't been warned.
 
Skywalker42 said:
From the Johan Joubert Community:
There are still many people who don't quite believe this statement: "when a bank makes a loan, new money is created." The banks call call them "loans" in all their advertising, but people need to get this: they are not loans at all.

If you are still not a believer, then this video from the international TEDx seminar will make it clear. It also happens to be a very good video on an alternative money system.

What he suggests is a bitcoin-like system.

Prof. Franz Hörmann - Society 2.0 - Entering a World Without Money
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I will read and look at that next week, thanks for the links SkyWalker42.
 
prison system profiteering - Nice.

[video=youtube;9knn1uUM7E4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9knn1uUM7E4&feature=youtu.be[/video]
 
Gozzy said:
Yeah I am aware of that, but as much as you want to belive this is BS it isnt... I know I might get flamed for this, but here goes:

We are getting closer and closer to the new world order.

Here's my view:
It kind of started alerting me with the whole RICA thing...I was in Bahrain when this happened, and guess what it Happened there too... more or less the same time..basically what this means is that they want to be in control...who here doesn't have a cellphone? its a stepping stone to the so called RFID Chip implants coming our way (I WISH I AM WRONG) according to e NSA.GOV's website there's already documentation on it (Limited ofcourse -> http://www.nsa.gov/research/_files/tech_transfers/wideband_mixer.pdf) they want to take control of everything, the oil, the banks, turn it into a NEW WORLD ORDER and a ONE WORLD GOVERMENT, their aim is to chip everybody with this RFID chip, and with this CHIP you will be able to trade etc... obviously it will be the total opposite without it, which will kind of force a lot of people to get it...same thing they did with the RICA story, get RICA'd or you will be cut off, same principle applies to this chip, like I said before I HOPE I AM WRONG, but this is me sitting and watching on the sideline, I can go on and on but I know that most people dont like hearing this bad news and will ignore this, just know that you have been warned, atleast do some digging of your own to paint a more clearer picture.

I can go on and on...but do some digging as well, we are blinded by the entertainment industry, and we need to wake up and smell the coffee coz this stuff is happening right infront of us but we choose to ignore it... the new e-tolls are aimed for the same reasons, control, money and tracking.

Do the math...we are getting closer and closer of being puppets for the elite and most of us don't even notice it, its happening right in front of our eyes but we choose to IGNORE it completely, before ignoring just DIG you will find a lot of PUZZLE pieces that you can put together yourselves...don't need to be a rocket scientist.

My personal view...use it dont use it, but dont say you haven't been warned.
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o_o Interesting. Aiight, I have heard about this here and there but I really didn't dive into it that much but I will do some research.
 
Skywalker42 said:
From the Johan Joubert Community:
There are still many people who don't quite believe this statement: "when a bank makes a loan, new money is created." The banks call call them "loans" in all their advertising, but people need to get this: they are not loans at all.

If you are still not a believer, then this video from the international TEDx seminar will make it clear. It also happens to be a very good video on an alternative money system.

What he suggests is a bitcoin-like system.

Prof. Franz Hörmann - Society 2.0 - Entering a World Without Money
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Ok, so I watched the video and it didn't change my opinion one bit. If one wants credit you pay interest, if you don't want to be part of that just live on a cash and savings basis and only use transactional banking.

What does bother me is countries being able to get credit... they have enough money to do things on their own if used effectively.
 
Keeper said:
Hey I didn't say the money supply should necessarily need to be fixed - just apposed to banks taking so much.

banks shouldn't be companies.
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What do you mean by "Taking" so much?

Banks need to pay interest to their depositors, cover overheads (subsidising consumer transactional banking) and provide a return to investors. Like any retailer they take what the market will bear.
 
Arthur said:
What's the alternative? A social service by government? A public utility? So you want banks funded by taxpayers?

Ever looked at the cost to consumers of government-provided services like telecommunications, television and broadcasting, not to speak of education, medical care, transportation ... they are invariably more expensive in overall cost to society than private sector entities doing the same work. Oh, and if you think state-provided education or medical care or anything else is "free" or "low cost", you really need to take a closer look at how much they really cost society (the politicians are hiding the real costs from their voters, bribing them with handouts). The government bureaucrats and clerks who administer these giant "public service" bureaucracies draw salaries and produce nothing of value. The consume and don't produce, and therfore leech off real working people. They should be abolished, along with 98% of state entities.
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What he really wants is a command economy, only he doesn't understand that yet, or the implications.

I do however believe that the provision of certain public services yeilds overall better (or desirable) results for society as a whole.

Education, healthcare & large infrastructure projects come to mind.
 
supersunbird said:
Ok, so I watched the video and it didn't change my opinion one bit. If one wants credit you pay interest, if you don't want to be part of that just live on a cash and savings basis and only use transactional banking.

What does bother me is countries being able to get credit... they have enough money to do things on their own if used effectively.
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I don't see a problem with countries (like companies) acquiring credit for large infrastructure projects.

I don't however believe they should borrow funds to pay layabouts on the dole (like Greece).
 
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