RIP Charlie Kirk

Mike Hoxbig said:
This is why this whole far left/right thing is hilarious. People don't even know what they're arguing for or against. By saying the far left/right is bad, you're actually arguing against economic policy (i.e. socialism or capitalism), not ideology.
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Thank you. The far left and far right are closely aligned:

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Mariner said:
Thank you. The far left and far right are closely aligned:

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This is extremely outdated.

And it incorrectly implies the center is good but then you end up with the ANC in the center.
 
Mirai said:
Bringing Hitler up lacks compassion and sense here Cray. You also did not understand my point. It makes no sense to bring up Hitler here. For what? You relativise the millions who suffered and died at his hands because in some way for many modern kids, Kirk is like Hitler.
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Why? We are discussing hypotheticals about how different political assinations might be viewed. Not one person here has compared Kirk to Hitler. The vast majority of people on this site have condemned his assasination.
 
Bewlen said:
Bruh, you need to calm TF down. You're reading something into what was purely an example, and you completely misinterpreted it. I don't think English is your first language, because you're going full-tilt based on your own fully misinterpreted reading of f-knows-what.
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I've aced English first language in Matric my friend. I think you should not use examples like Hitler here. Just move on.

Bewlen said:
Let me make this easier for you: think of someone you really hate because you think they are the embodiment of evil. Now close your eyes, think what your interpretation would be if they were murdered, if you would lack the ability to feel bad about their murder because you interpret them to be evil.
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I don't know how Kirk could be considered an embodiment of evil. He's just a debate with points one could debunk or argue against. Sticks and stones can break my bones but words will never hurt me. To kill someone or consider them evil because of bad words shows pathology in the first place or lack of understanding of what it means to live in an open and pluralistic society.



Bewlen said:
Now read the original statement again that caused you all that grief, but replace "Hitler" with the person you had in mind.
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I'm sorry but we all know what Hitler was. Kirk cannot be compared to Hitler.

Bewlen said:
Better now?

Go one step further: I - myself - would not have felt bad if Adolf was murdered in cold blood, because he was a fully evil creature who has the blood of millions on his hands. Hence the example used!

Ok?
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Not better. Just leave Hitler out of this.
 
Cray said:
Why? We are discussing hypotheticals about how different political assinations might be viewed. Not one person here has compared Kirk to Hitler. The vast majority of people on this site have condemned his assination.
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They believe what they want to believe no matter evidence or reason.
It gives them the warm-and-fuzzies.
 
Cray said:
Why? We are discussing hypotheticals about how different political assinations might be viewed. Not one person here has compared Kirk to Hitler. The vast majority of people on this site have condemned his assination.
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Well if we are discussing crazy and irrational ways how things could be viewed but that makes no sense. Kirk was no Hitler. Only people who would dehumanise the guy with the left wing Nazi label would think that. And such people who don't really know what Hitler did - know him from comic books or video games - would only buy such a comparison. There are people who rape and murder children too and they often think they do something righteous as well. It makes no sense to bring them into this either.

Bad example. Kirk did nothing rationally close to anything Hitler did. Hitler was a terrible example and re-using him or other modern invaders of countries like Vlad, makes a mockery of the real conflicts and tragedies which occur at this very moment or had occurred in the past but many people live with these consequences.

This kind of lack of awareness and respect for real tragedies make trumped up comparisons of Kirk and Nazis a joke. Just drop the whole Hitler or Vlad thing. Kirk did not send tanks or rockets onto civilian targets in Ukraine.
 
Decarin said:
They believe what they want to believe no matter evidence or reason.
It gives them the warm-and-fuzzies.
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Like project 2025. Christian Nationalism will take over the USA and only straight white men well be spared.

And mono-culturism, because there is a white culture
 
rietrot said:
Like project 2025. Christian Nationalism will take over the USA and only straight white men well be spared.
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Yes these horror stories which never materialise because they're a scapegoat used to justify extra judicial killing of people with different views.
 
G'Wobblez said:
All the last few days have shown me is people don't want to listen people refuse to use critical thinking,
Something with the hive mind in the USA is very wrong
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The yanks have a huge mental problem. It's been clear for ages now
 
Decarin said:

Project 2025 - Wikipedia

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Enjoy.
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Buddy,

Like project 2025. Christian Nationalism will take over the USA and only straight white men well be spared.
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So tell me,

Where will only white Christian males be spared, I assume spared as in their lives spared.

By the way the left has been pushing intolerance to conservative views for decades:

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A Critique of Pure Tolerance - Wikipedia

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rietrot said:
Like project 2025. Christian Nationalism will take over the USA and only straight white men well be spared.

And mono-culturism, because there is a white culture
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Then the rapture happens and all the Christian straight white men get beamed up to heaven.

The USA becomes a complete Sodom and Gamorrah, with only lefties left behind. Oh and Trump too, he ain't getting aboard no rapture.
 
vigras rojara said:
Then the rapture happens and all the Christian straight white men get beamed up to heaven.

The USA becomes a complete Sodom and Gamorrah, with only lefties left behind. Oh and Trump too, he ain't getting aboard no rapture.
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The gays take over Yanksville? I wouldn't be surprised. They are rather powerful lately
 
rietrot said:
Like project 2025. Christian Nationalism will take over the USA and only straight white men well be spared.

And mono-culturism, because there is a white culture
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I'm pretty sure white American culture exists
All the cowboy stuff?
Country music?
Mormonism?

Whatever is idealized as the "Ideal American family lifestyle" will be that. Think 1950's ideal family in American media. Think women "who know their place". Think "quiet and respectful children." Think men being the only breadwinner in a household. White picket fence.

Think Republican wet dream, basically.
 
Mirai said:
I've aced English first language in Matric my friend. I think you should not use examples like Hitler here. Just move on.
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So you simply enjoy making your name tottie for sh%7s and giggles then? Weird flex, but ok, you do you....
 
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