RIP Charlie Kirk

National Pride is good
National Purity and Supremacy is not.

Pride implies supremacy.

Nobody calls for Purity. I think what people call for is for foreigners to undergo a legal vetting process and commitment from their end.

Kirk called for behaviour change and not racial, ethnic, religious, gender, etc change.

Point is that in a free society one can accept that one can hold such views and people can share them and compare/contrast them with other views in the open market of ideas. We're not restricted by thought crimes about what is allowed and what's not allowed as long as one does not call for actual violence to someone else. Kirk instead got a bullet for believing he lived in a free and civilised society where people could talk and debunk views or opinions. At the end Kirk had no legal power to pass laws at the end of the debate. These were mere debates. Still he got a bullet for that.
 
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I am not crazy, I am the "Bridge out" sign

1. Fact: Elon Musk makes Nazi salute during Trump inauguration. This is revered by MAGA and even honoured.
2. Fact: Israel is an Apartheid state. Undesirables are non-citizens.
Fact: Israel is doing a genocide right now, which is protected by the MAGA-ruled US and even suggests ways to do it better
3. Fact: American Nationalism is very much on the rise in one particular party. Everybody rallies around shouting the phrase "Deutchland Uber Alles" "Make America Great Again!" waving the flag like mad.
4. Fact: The ruling party in Israel is Likud – National Liberal Movement
5. Fact: The guys who made Apartheid called themselves "The National Party of South Africa" because they were Nationalists and valued Christian values and purity above all. They had the nickname "The Nats"
6. Fact: You will never guess what "Nazi" is short for.... Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or National Socialist German Workers' Party

7. My guy. Sometimes you just need to look around you. Nationalism is bad. We had a war about this.
Do I need to break out Dr Seuss?
You are truly off your meds.

1. Musk is no longer part of the Trump team since their falling out. Irrelevant. I have no problem if someone make nazi salute as a joke. Cringe edgy joks are not illegal or should not be.
2. I don't care about Israel. They are incompetent and should have cleared the terrorist out of gaza long ago. Speed up that genocide.
3. Nothing wrong with patriotism. It is a good thing.
4. Everything is about Israel with you.
5. And the Nazis called themselves socialist because they were socialist leftist.
6. Why have a problem with the nationalist part but not the socialist part of their name.
7. The boomer thought process that is a result of the 2nd WW needs to die. Thinking that anyone who identify as a nationalist or display some patriotism is a Nazi is comically stupid and superficial.
 
... sigh...

I don't know why you brought up Hitler here, a man who made a slave of my grandmother and murdered her father and murdered my father's father? Why would you bring Hitler in here? Unless you claim Kirk is like Hitler? Well Kirk didn't murder anyone, so I would take a little offense at you bringing in Hitler so quickly here.
 
You cannot call for more authoritarianism and more mono-culturism and what essentially boils down to a state-religion (I refer to the phrase "One Nation Under God") and expect things to get better.

Which God is not stated. Thus, it can be any God that the adherent believes in but keeps personal and never discusses. One of the most ancient orders in the world has this ethos and is known as peaceful. There are around 7 million of them worldwide and no matter which religion any adherent practices, they meet in peace and harmony anywhere in the world.
 
I am not crazy, I am the "Bridge out" sign

Fact: Elon Musk makes Nazi salute during Trump inauguration. This is revered by MAGA and even honoured.
Fact: Israel is an Apartheid state. Undesirables are non-citizens.
Fact: Israel is doing a genocide right now, which is protected by the MAGA-ruled US and even suggests ways to do it better
Fact: American Nationalism is very much on the rise in one particular party. Everybody rallies around shouting the phrase "Deutchland Uber Alles" "Make America Great Again!" waving the flag like mad.
Fact: The ruling party in Israel is Likud – National Liberal Movement
Fact: The guys who made Apartheid called themselves "The National Party of South Africa" because they were Nationalists and valued Christian values and purity above all. They had the nickname "The Nats"
Fact: You will never guess what "Nazi" is short for.... Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or National Socialist German Workers' Party

My guy. Sometimes you just need to look around you. Nationalism is bad. We had a war about this.
Do I need to break out Dr Seuss?

national ==> right????
then anc (african national congress) is a right-wing party. I guess. :rolleyes:

PS: nazi / fascist is far-left, not right.

btw, your "facts" are BS, proved again leftists are illogical and unreasonable.
 
Now you guys bend over backwards to defend both fascism and genocide?

This is the direction America is headed 100%. A Christian Nationalist State in the making. The end product of Project 2025.
This is probably exactly what what the shooter thinks too.

It is just not true and you should seek professional help.

Trump is a 90's colour blind liberal.
The USA has a constitution that protects free speech. More people on the right actually support the 1st amendment. So no Christian state.

Americans should be patriotic about America.

2025 is almost done. Whe. Is the world going to end?
 
This is probably exactly what what the shooter thinks too.

It is just not true and you should seek professional help.

Trump is a 90's colour blind liberal.
The USA has a constitution that protects free speech. More people on the right actually support the 1st amendment. So no Christian state.

Americans should be patriotic about America.

2025 is almost done. Whe. Is the world going to end?
Project 2025 was about getting Republicans into power and making sweeping systemic changes to keep them there no matter if the Democrats win an election down the line. The people who put the plan together are part of Uncle Donnie's government.

The 2025 bit wasn't the ending date but rather the starting one.
 
You cannot call for more authoritarianism and more mono-culturism and what essentially boils down to a state-religion (I refer to the phrase "One Nation Under God") and expect things to get better.
Christian Nationalism will lead to some pretty dark things, but it is always touted as the answer by the MAGAs.

Again you can get rid of all the minorities and "retard lefties" you want, America in its Christian Nationalist phase will be one very, very dark place. Apartheid++, just like its little experiment lab-rat: Israel.
There is no mono-culturism in the US. There's big cultural differences between most states to the point that outsiders are aware of the stereotypes.

What even is the one culture that these Christians nationalist are supposedly trying to force on everyone? More like a new Yorker culture or a redneck culture?
 
Project 2025 was about getting Republicans into power and making sweeping systemic changes to keep them there no matter if the Democrats win an election down the line. The people who put the plan together are part of Uncle Donnie's government.

The 2025 bit wasn't the ending date but rather the starting one.
The democrats are their own worst enemy because they just have no clue what people want.

But great. They should be out of power for the next 50 years because of how bad they are.
 
Using a more current example, I reckon most people would be okay with or even celebrate if Vladimir Putin got murdered.

Not sure what Putin has to do with Kirk.

If an Ukrainian were to put in act what you mentioned above, would it be murder? Do soldiers on the battlefield murder each other? Would a commander in chief be an element of that or are they a completely innocent, bystander civilian?
 
Now you guys bend over backwards to defend both fascism and genocide?

This is the direction America is headed 100%. A Christian Nationalist State in the making. The end product of Project 2025.

We can only hope.
 
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