RIP Charlie Kirk

[rietrot]

Congrats, you seem like someone even less qualified to make that determination than Charlie was.


Nope, your first statement is BS, gender affirming care encompasses a wide range of things a lot of which is not permanent.

Ideally I would like to see one study that shows successfully reverseing "gender affirming care" where teens were blocked form going through puberty and it was later reversed successfully.

But I'll settle for on well documented anecdotal example.

 

[Bewlen]

Balancing act. Do nothing, and potentially have hundreds if not thousands of Americans have their lives affected by the drugs - with potentially fatal consequences - or worry about rights and lives of handful of drug smugglers.

What is it with the left and being more concerned about the criminals than their victims?

Ho. Lee. F***.

The argument that you're trying to bring to the table, is simply insane.

"Yeah we might blow up innocent people. But that's fine, because odds are they were not innocent and really bad".

The US used to be a world leader. Now they're just a world power.

 

[porchrat]

Ideally I would like to see one study that shows successfully reverseing "gender affirming care" where teens were blocked form going through puberty and it was later reversed successfully.

But I'll settle for on well documented anecdotal example.

You've just been told the guy is referring to treatments other than puberty blockers and still you're going on about them.

What is wrong with you? How do you struggle this badly to follow conversations?

 

[Cray]

Ideally I would like to see one study that shows successfully reverseing "gender affirming care" where teens were blocked form going through puberty and it was later reversed successfully.

But I'll settle for on well documented anecdotal example.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09...afe-effective-and-reversible-review/104322428

Puberty blockers a 'safe, effective and reversible' form of gender-affirming care, finds review triggered by Westmead Hospital investigation​

An independent review into gender-affirming care for children has found that puberty suppression treatment is still "safe, effective and reversible"

 

[vigras rojara]

Balancing act. Do nothing, and potentially have hundreds if not thousands of Americans have their lives affected by the drugs - with potentially fatal consequences - or worry about rights and lives of handful of drug smugglers.

What is it with the left and being more concerned about the criminals than their victims?

While we're at it, why not just abolish the criminal court system too? All this tax payer cash going into defending criminals. Criminals have more rights than honest citizens blah blah.

Just drag them out to the Town Square and execute them all. Who needs due process?

Trump u Akbar!!

 

[rietrot]

You've just been told the guy is referring to treatments other than puberty blockers and still you're going on about them.

What is wrong with you? How do you struggle this badly to follow conversations?

That is what gender affirming care is. Unless you think he means a double mastectomy can be reversed.

In truth he has no idea what he is talking about he is just repeating the leftie line that is is perfectly safe and reverseable when we know that isn't true.

Leftist lie.

 

[Cray]

In truth he has no idea what he is talking about he is just repeating the leftie line that is is perfectly safe and reverseable when we know that isn't true.

Not all gender affirming care is reversible, am against that for children. But the idea that all gender affirming care is irreversible is bollocks.

 

[porchrat]

That is what gender affirming care is. Unless you think he means a double mastectomy can be reversed.

In truth he has no idea what he is talking about he is just repeating the leftie line that is is perfectly safe and reverseable when we know that isn't true.

Leftist lie.

My man you're talking absolute horseschit again. Even speech therapy to help masculanise or feminise your voice is gender affirming care. It doesn't have to be hormones and surgery.

As long as it's easily reversible I agree it's not a problem.

 

[Speedster]

See above.

Which post?

 

[lexity]

It's a good thing it's waiting patiently.

Here's an actual picture of me waiting patiently for anything to happen in the secession threads.

You can see it's me because of the patriotic cushions.View attachment 1848462

Ok, Pot.

 

[vigras rojara]

Ok, Pot.

Ag shame Pol Pot, you really shouldn't get upset at being laughed at for trying to secede in every thread.

 

[porchrat]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09...afe-effective-and-reversible-review/104322428

Even that article admits the evidence is weak.

The idea that one can conclude at this point that messing with the hormonal cascades happening during puberty without consequence is wild to me. We don't even close to fully understand that process.

 

[Jean Claude Vaaldamme]

Its a pity that the same dumbasses from both sides of the fence that spam all the war and political threads, have now taken over this thread too.

 

[lexity]

Ag shame Pol Pot, ...

"Pol Pot"?

Lord, where the heck did that come from?

 

[Cray]

Even that article admits the evidence is weak.

The idea that one can conclude at this point that messing with the hormonal cascades happening during puberty without consequence is wild to me. We don't even close to fully understand that process.

Fair enough, it was more a counter to rietie's silly post, I agree that some gender affirming care is irreversible and am against that for children, I disagree that it's all irreversible which is why Kirk's rant about Nuremburg is pretty vile.

 

[Cray]

Its a pity that the same dumbasses from both sides of the fence that spam all the war and political threads, have now taken over this thread too.

When another thread was created to discuss Kirk's more controversial beliefs, those people were branded as being glad that Kirk was killed.

 

[vigras rojara]

"Pol Pot"?

Lord, where the heck did that come from?

From the "pot" thing. And you both hold/held somewhat controversial views.

But I take my secession point back. The thread now seems to be about every right winger's obsession - transgender issues, instead of the actual topic. So feel free to discuss secession too.

 

[Craig_]

Do you have any idea how many gay people are MAGA? Do you even know what MAGA is/means?

Maybe step out of the echo chamber you've entered. I even gave you instructions on how to do it.

Nah my friend, I'm relatively neutral in this. You on the other hand should look at posts like the below, these are the supporters of Maga. I barely even follow this stuff on socials, basically only on mybb. People like him sees lgbtq people as predators. And some of you associate yourselves with them.

Same here. Keep your pride month and other **** away from our lives and our children.

 

[rietrot]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09...afe-effective-and-reversible-review/104322428

Just for other people. The article is ****, you can click through to the study itself it is available in pdf for free. It is a meta study that examined other studies. It links mainly to two other studies for the safe and reversible. Im not digging that deep into the references and I am not learning about all the specific drugs.

But it is full of fun little quotes like this.

GAHT is only partially reversible. Voice
deepening, facial hair growth and reduction in
scalp hair growth may be irreversible for trans
boys. Reversing the effects of breast
development in trans girls may require surgery
(two references, clinical guideline and committee
opinion).

Yeah totally reversible. If you don't grow boobs you can just get fake boobs with surgery or cut yours off. That is to demonstrate the level of what they deem to be reversible.

And mainly they say there's not enough evidence and more research is needed.

I am happy that I am correct.

 

[lexity]

From the "pot" thing. And you both hold/held somewhat controversial views.

You got "Pol Pot" from a "Pot calling Kettle Black" reference... that you yourself used in the last 2 days?



You might think nobody sees you.