Ripoff parts

[Colin62]

Maybe his bakkie did 300 001km?

Your comment is a bit ignorant, to say the least. Being older and presumably knowing about cars (hence you posting in this sub forum), you'll know that parts don't always last as long as they should.

My comment is ignorant? Try to think before committing yourself to paper, so to speak. Especially in public.

OK I'll spell it out for you, because clearly you need spoonfeeding.

Yes, it's possible that his bakkie needed ball joints at 300 001 km, but if that were the norm, no-one would be bothered about them, and they wouldn't be an item of discussion. Things that get replaced at 300 000+ include everything on the car. Pirate part makers only sell what turns a profit, and if the ball joint on an Isuzu lasted 300 000km, they wouldn't be sold by the pirates, because it's just not profitable enough, so the theory that the GM ball joints are so wonderful is flawed - the very fact that there is a pirate part available indicates that the GM part is unreliable.

At 300 000km, you'd be looking at redoing the suspension in it's entirety not just a few ball joints.

And it's also clear from the post I quoted that DTBA isn't just talking about his own personal bakkie. The "We replace them..." is a clue. He's either talking from the point of view of a workshop or a fleet operator, and he's talking about more than one set of ball joints on more than one bakkie.

 

[KingMikel]

My comment is ignorant? Try to think before committing yourself to paper, so to speak. Especially in public.

OK I'll spell it out for you, because clearly you need spoonfeeding.

Yes, it's possible that his bakkie needed ball joints at 300 001 km, but if that were the norm, no-one would be bothered about them, and they wouldn't be an item of discussion. Things that get replaced at 300 000+ include everything on the car. Pirate part makers only sell what turns a profit, and if the ball joint on an Isuzu lasted 300 000km, they wouldn't be sold by the pirates, because it's just not profitable enough, so the theory that the GM ball joints are so wonderful is flawed - the very fact that there is a pirate part available indicates that the GM part is unreliable.

At 300 000km, you'd be looking at redoing the suspension in it's entirety not just a few ball joints.

And it's also clear from the post I quoted that DTBA isn't just talking about his own personal bakkie. The "We replace them..." is a clue. He's either talking from the point of view of a workshop or a fleet operator, and he's talking about more than one set of ball joints on more than one bakkie.

Again, the longevity of a part is not set in stone. Budget is a major factor in part replacement. Pirate R1500 vs Genuine R5000, in his case it's a no brainer because of the perceived deeper than average pockets. But to the regular guy on the street driving this workhorse, the R1500 will be better. Justifying the need for pirate parts.

 

[Drifter]

Let met just say. Pilot parts aka midas parts are fine for most of the time, but there is just stuff that you don't buy at midas.

Around here if you replace our isuzu bakkies ball joints with pilot parts you will need to replace them again in 70 000km. Yes they are cheap 1500 for all 4. But If they fall out while you are driving on a dirt road at 50kmh+ you will **** your pants.

We replace them with GM parts @ R5000 for the whole front set and they will out last the bakkie or at least 300 000km.

U mean to say Pirate parts...... not Pilot parts.

 

[Colin62]

Again, the longevity of a part is not set in stone. Budget is a major factor in part replacement. Pirate R1500 vs Genuine R5000, in his case it's a no brainer because of the perceived deeper than average pockets. But to the regular guy on the street driving this workhorse, the R1500 will be better. Justifying the need for pirate parts.

I'm sorry, but did school end early this term? What exactly are you doing on here if you have nothing useful to add to the discussion?Who has perceived deeper than average pockets and what do they have to do with the discussion? You take me to task because I criticise the GM parts, and now you're justifying the need for pirate parts? You're not very bright are you?

 

[KingMikel]

I'm sorry, but did school end early this term? What exactly are you doing on here if you have nothing useful to add to the discussion?Who has perceived deeper than average pockets and what do they have to do with the discussion? You take me to task because I criticise the GM parts, and now you're justifying the need for pirate parts? You're not very bright are you?

School leaving early as opposed to what, having 1 foot in the grave? The same quips could be applied to you, as you've clearly provided nothing of value in this thread.

Let me spell this out for you.
-When I said "in his case" - I was actually referring to OP. But, your bloodlust and love for high blood pressure negated the obvious.

-Again, the "deeper than average pockets" is meant to point at the OP. They're utilised because he's paying R5000 for genuine parts instead of R1500 for pirate parts. I thought this was obvious, you

-"I took you to task" about your ignorance regarding this post: "So, if the GM parts last 300 000 km, why do they need replacing? In fact if they last so long, the pirates wouldn't even bother marketing that part." I cannot fathom how you can think this contributed anything of substance to this thread. Just because a part lasts long, the "pirates", if you will, shouldn't make them?? Are you stupid? I personally still had the original shocks in my 2004 Corsa Lite up until the day I sold it. They lasted over 10 years and 242 000km, does this remove the need for pirate shocks? Following your logic, this should as they've lasted far longer than the norm which is usually between 70 000km-100 000km if you follow the industry norm - http://www.speedy.co.za/shocks.

You're very quick to take to insulting people. Do you do this because your glory days are behind you, and you have something to prove? Do you thrive on having high blood pressure? Are you proud of the manner in which you conduct yourself?

As always, feel free to critique and hurl belittlements. You've clearly got a point to prove.

 

[DTBA]

So, if the GM parts last 300 000 km, why do they need replacing? In fact if they last so long, the pirates wouldn't even bother marketing that part.

Isuzu 2004 2.5 diesel

Thats why it got replaced

 

[DTBA]

U mean to say Pirate parts...... not Pilot parts.

yea sorry

I have seen the Pirate ball joints fail under 70 000km. We drive 90% gravel so the wear and tear is bloody high. I will not replace them with Pirate parts no way it will cost your life. If the ball joint fails the wheel will fold under into the bakkie and on a gravel road you will roll it.

 

[KingMikel]

yea sorry

I have seen the Pirate ball joints fail under 70 000km. We drive 90% gravel so the wear and tear is bloody high. I will not replace them with Pirate parts no way it will cost your life. If the ball joint fails the wheel will fold under into the bakkie and on a gravel road you will roll it.

If I was in your shoes, I'd make the exception and buy the GM parts as it clearly pays off.

 

[DTBA]

My comment is ignorant? Try to think before committing yourself to paper, so to speak. Especially in public.

OK I'll spell it out for you, because clearly you need spoonfeeding.

Yes, it's possible that his bakkie needed ball joints at 300 001 km, but if that were the norm, no-one would be bothered about them, and they wouldn't be an item of discussion. Things that get replaced at 300 000+ include everything on the car. Pirate part makers only sell what turns a profit, and if the ball joint on an Isuzu lasted 300 000km, they wouldn't be sold by the pirates, because it's just not profitable enough, so the theory that the GM ball joints are so wonderful is flawed - the very fact that there is a pirate part available indicates that the GM part is unreliable.

At 300 000km, you'd be looking at redoing the suspension in it's entirety not just a few ball joints.

And it's also clear from the post I quoted that DTBA isn't just talking about his own personal bakkie. The "We replace them..." is a clue. He's either talking from the point of view of a workshop or a fleet operator, and he's talking about more than one set of ball joints on more than one bakkie.

Yes we own 4 isuzus and all the farms around us also drives isuzus. So I know for a fact as I myself replaced them.

 

[KingMikel]

Yes we own 4 isuzus and all the farms around us also drives isuzus. So I know for a fact as I myself replaced them.

Just out of interest, where are these farms?

My cousin's husband works in the Natal Midlands and they swear by Toyotas

 

[DTBA]

Just to point out

Upper control arm bushings
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Pirate parts in the picture they last about 10 000 to 20 000 Km

GM you replace them once and next time you replace them buy a new bakkie.. I am not joking . If it was not for gravel roads you never have to replace them.

Yes you pay a ****load more for GM parts but I know they last longer. Other stuff I do replace with pirate parts .. Like clutch slave cylinder. Brake kits. They work fine

 

[DTBA]

Just out of interest, where are these farms?

My cousin's husband works in the Natal Midlands and they swear by Toyotas

Northern Cape Kalahari

Drives a lot softer on theses roads

 

[Colin62]

rant snipped

I've actually stated my case more than once, and to do it again would not only bore anyone with an understanding of how life and business works, but it would bore me too.

With reference to my insulting you, scroll back, you called me ignorant. If you can't cope with a little heat, then don't play with matches.

 

[KingMikel]

I've actually stated my case more than once, and to do it again would not only bore anyone with an understanding of how life and business works, but it would bore me too.

With reference to my insulting you, scroll back, you called me ignorant. If you can't cope with a little heat, then don't play with matches.

Sure.

With reference of me insulting you. I didn't call you ignorant. I said your comment was a bit ignorant. You perma-rant and insult people, I hardly turn any heat on and you resort to numerous insults, then back out when called on your general demeanour on the forum? Lol.

 

[Colin62]

Isuzu 2004 2.5 diesel
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Thats why it got replaced

Cool. So you're planning another 400 000km I hope

 

[Colin62]

Sure.

With reference of me insulting you. I didn't call you ignorant. I said your comment was a bit ignorant. You perma-rant and insult people, I hardly turn any heat on and you resort to numerous insults, then back out when called on your general demeanour on the forum? Lol.

Who backed out of what? You want me to keep repeating the same thing till you read it?

 

[KingMikel]

Who backed out of what? You want me to keep repeating the same thing till you read it?

Okay, now I'm calling you ignorant. You cannot justify anything you've said.

You've just been rekt.

 

[DTBA]

Cool. So you're planning another 400 000km I hope

Hope so, dif,engine,gearbox Have not been opened up once

 

[Colin62]

Okay, now I'm calling you ignorant. You cannot justify anything you've said.

You've just been rekt.

As I thought. Pre-pubescent teen with issues.

Has the school called your mommy yet to find out why the Gr 8 class was missing it's dunce?

 

[Colin62]

Hope so, dif,engine,gearbox Have not been opened up once

I've never understood the idea of dumping a vehicle just because it's got a few hundred thousand km on the clock.