Road rules

SauRoNZA said:
Yeah so we'll have more retards using them AT NIGHT without realising the rear lights don't switch on with DRL's in most cars.

OP : There is no road rule that states lights need to be on at 18:00 exactly, because as seasons change 18:00 isn't really a valid value. What it does say is that lights should be one when the sun has gone down...but people are idiots.
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At least you will still be able to see them approaching (so they wont t-bone into your side when you pull off at that intersection into a main road or leave your driveway because you'd have seen them coming) or, and their instrument clusters will show them lights are off and the full beams from behind will make them wake up. And vehicles have reflectors on the back (besides the numberplates) and if you drive into someone, that is moving, from behind you might need to go for eye tests (unless it is a dirty old skedonk, which might not have working or very faint rear lights anyway and very dirty or no reflectors).
 
supersunbird said:
At least you will still be able to see them approaching (so they wont t-bone into your side when you pull off at that intersection into a main road or leave your driveway because you'd have seen them coming) or, and their instrument clusters will show them lights are off and the full beams from behind will make them wake up. And vehicles have reflectors on the back (besides the numberplates) and if you drive into someone, that is moving, from behind you might need to go for eye tests (unless it is a dirty old skedonk, which might not have working or very faint rear lights anyway and very dirty or no reflectors).
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I don't know hey.

I've seen these on the highway in the wee hours of the morning. Especially Fords with DRL's on and it's all dead but the instrument cluster I seem to recall being on.

If the car is a bad colour like say red the it's near invisible.

Granted I'm on a bike so don't sit right behind them the whole time where reflectors would pick them up.

But when more so a reason why it's dangerous as I wouldn't see them swinging out at a distance.

They should make the automatic lights mandatory rather. Seems people need it.
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Ramodiana, contrary to what you're saying, this was not the Toyota Fortuner's fault. If you were driving defensively you would have immediately been on alert while driving behind a taxi, waiting for it to stop. Then you would have slowed down and stopped if necessary, until you could see past the taxi and ensure that it was safe (and not proceeding until you have visibility - the responsibility is yours!). From the way you've written it, it sounds like the taxi stopping caught you unawares and you swerved into the oncoming lane without checking properly, so whether or not the headlights were on on the Fortuner was completely irrelevant. Sound about right?
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I would normally say the same, but at some stage a taxi will catch you out. I watch them with a hawk eye, mostly to cut them off when they try stupid stuff. But still, every now and then out will just randomly doing something really out of the ordinary stupid, and you will not have expected it.
 
cr@zydude said:
Yes and no. They help at certain times when dipped beams are needed, but then idiots don't put their dipped beams on when need as "the car's lights are always on".

I use my park lights for this, especially late in the afternoons but before sunset.
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Park lights should never be on when driving, it's all in the name. And if you car has DRL, which most new cars have, switching you park lights on might switch them off, depending on the car.
 
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Cr419 said:
Park lights should never be on when driving, it's all in the name. And if you car has DRL, which most new cars have, switching you park lights on might switch them off, depending on the car.
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Neither of the cars I've owned have had drls.

While I still think that park lights make a car more visible than than no lights, I'll stop using them. To be clear, I always used my dipped beams, probably earlier in the evening and later in the mornings than most.
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Yup, you did. Moral of the story is just *always* assume the car in front of you is about to do something stupid,and there is an oncoming car you can't see. You'll drive a lot safer immediately, trust me. It's so worth it: far less risk of head-on collisions and no "If only" game in the case of an accident. Good luck and safe driving out there!
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So you never make right turns then? :p
 
Archer said:
That is only because they have multiple destinations. If you only have one place to get to the most direct way is much better
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Not if you have to sit 5 traffic light cycles at a busy intersection waiting to turn right (poor design and light timing combined) while it may be possible to turn left 3 times and cross the intersection in a shorter space of time, but there are many variables.
 
supersunbird said:
Not if you have to sit 5 traffic light cycles at a busy intersection waiting to turn right (poor design and light timing combined) while it may be possible to turn left 3 times and cross the intersection in a shorter space of time, but there are many variables.
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Like how I would never get out of my suburb if I only made left turns? :p
 
I swear many of you would think I'm lying this morning around 05:00 I passed a Toyota (old model) not sure if it's hilux. I'm not sure about the make of the car but it was a van single cab maroon in colour. It was driving behind Chevrolet van the Toyota didn't have lights On. Rustenburg drivers are dangerous
 
Ramodiana said:
I swear many of you would think I'm lying this morning around 05:00 I passed a Toyota (old model) not sure if it's hilux. I'm not sure about the make of the car but it was a van single cab maroon in colour. It was driving behind Chevrolet van the Toyota didn't have lights On. Rustenburg drivers are dangerous
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Rustenburg Toyota drivers it seems.
 
cr@zydude said:
Neither of the cars I've owned have had drls.

While I still think that park lights make a car more visible than than no lights, I'll stop using them. To be clear, I always used my dipped beams, probably earlier in the evening and later in the mornings than most.
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If it's dark enough to put park lights on, it's dark enough to put headlights on.

Personally, I was happy to discover a setting on my car that puts the lights on when the car is started. Especially good having lights on when on the open road; I prefer to be visible.
 
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