Robert Mugabe has died

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I commented to some people there that what we take for granted, the very spices sold there in that shop on Voortrekker Road could be attributed to old sailing ships, the pioneering spirit of the Voortrekker ancestors (on Voortrekker Road lol) and the people that lay in the old parts Maitland Cemetery across the road. If it was not for them I would not be standing there in that shop buying products. Nobody got what was I saying, I may have well being talking to the wall from the blank stares I got.

You expecting miracles :)
That requires intelligence, intellect and education , 3 extremely rare qualities that one doesnt encounter much in South Africa as a rule.
 

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So apparently his stay at the Gleneagles Hospital in Singapore cost Zimbabweans about R12000000. Or about R80500 per. day.

Disgusting
 

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So apparently his stay at the Gleneagles Hospital in Singapore cost Zimbabweans about R12000000. Or about R80500 per. day.

Disgusting
Gleneagles Hospital started out as a 45-bed nursing home in 1957. The British Association was the original founder of Glenagles Hospital, during a time where Singapore was slowly gaining independence from the British.

All this Breetish Colonial History, the irony.
 

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I once visited Zim about 14 years ago.

I promised myself at the time that I will only visit again once I am able to piss on mad Bob's grave.

I will be booking the plane ticket as soon as the grave location has been made known.
 

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Mugabe declared 'national hero,' Zimbabwe awaits return and burial

Zimbabweans on Saturday mourned the death of their country’s founding father Robert Mugabe but confusion swirled about when his body would be returned from abroad or when he would be buried, two years after he was toppled in a coup.

Mugabe died on Friday aged 95 in Singapore, where he had long received medical treatment.

He was one of the most polarising figures in African history, a giant of national liberation movements on the continent but whose 37-year rule finally ended in ignominy when he was overthrown by his own army in 2017.


President Emmerson Mnangagwa granted Mugabe the status of national hero in a televised address on Friday, while tributes poured in from leaders from across the continent.

Mugabe’s body was initially expected to arrive in South Africa early on Saturday before flying on to Zimbabwe. But there was still no word that the body had left Singapore.

Mnangagwa said on Friday Zimbabwe would be in mourning until Mugabe was buried, but he did not say how many days of mourning there would be or when the burial would take place.




 

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a national hero ?
i guess hitler was also considered a national hero at some point in time

Mugabe’s body was initially expected to arrive in South Africa early on Saturday
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i cant help but wonder if our insolvent national carrier or air force has been tasked to bring back the carcass of africa's genocidal despot
 

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a national hero ?
i guess hitler was also considered a national hero at some point in time


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i cant help but wonder if our insolvent national carrier or air force has been tasked to bring back the carcass of africa's genocidal despot
Don't believe everything you read in the media. Also, as you say, Hitler was a hero to some, Idi Amin the same. Mostly by people who's families they didn't kill or torture.
 

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a national hero ?
i guess hitler was also considered a national hero at some point in time


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i cant help but wonder if our insolvent national carrier or air force has been tasked to bring back the carcass of africa's genocidal despot
Probably on Singapore Airlines plane, then military plane from here.
 

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So apparently his stay at the Gleneagles Hospital in Singapore cost Zimbabweans about R12000000. Or about R80500 per. day.

Disgusting

I do not think he knows how to counts, so it makes no difference to him or his followers
 
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Robert Mugabe was — ah, what a delight it is to use the past tense — one of those demonic despots whose name and crimes ought to be commonly known. Yet somehow, he never quite caught the imagination of the Western press, even if he caught its attention. The average person walking down the street knows about the Kims in North Korea, Saddam Hussein, and Ayatollah Khamenei; but you had to be interested in foreign affairs to recognize the name Mugabe as a monster who deserved to be lined up alongside them in hell.

Some might argue Mugabe’s relative obscurity reflects a Western press that is uncomfortable with acknowledging the fact that a leftist anti-Colonialist revolutionary leader can turn out to be a bloodthirsty and brutal despot; some might argue his relative obscurity reflects a Western press that simply isn’t all that interested in Africa.

Earlier this year, John Fund offered a succinct summary of Mugabe’s catastrophic rule:

Robert Mugabe became the president of Zimbabwe in April 1980, back when Jimmy Carter was still president. Within two years he had deployed his infamous North Korea–trained Fifth Brigade against minority tribes in Matabeleland in a campaign of deliberate killing and starvation. The organization Genocide Watch estimated that 20,000 people were ultimately killed.
Mugabe would later launch an insane seizure of white-owned farms. That led to widespread food shortages and destructive hyperinflation that resulted in almost-worthless 100 trillion Zimbabwean dollar notes in circulation.
But henchmen from the ruling party, Mugabe’s Zimbabwe African National Union (ZANU), violently tamped down protests, and he ruled until November 2017, when a clique of his own generals worried that his wife would replace him overthrew the 94-year-old dictator in a coup. Since then, former minister of defense and current president Emmerson Mnangagwa has proclaimed that his country is “open for business,” when in reality the regime’s slogan should be “The new boss is just like the old boss.”

Just how similar are Zimbabwe’s new rulers? This summer Jay Nordlinger caught up with Evan Mawarire — a pastor and democracy leader from Zimbabwe:

The current regime in Zimbabwe is just as bad as Mugabe’s. In fact, it is a continuation of it. As Pastor Evan says, Mugabe is gone but the Mugabe system remains.
When the old man fell, there was euphoria in the streets, Evan says. People of all ages and tribes rejoiced. There had not been such unity since independence, says Evan. But it quickly turned to ash.
As before, democracy leaders and protesters were arrested (Evan among them). Their wives and daughters were raped. The men were beaten in prison. Evan wound up in the very same cell, incidentally — not just the same prison but the same cell.

Perhaps the Western world never paid much attention to Mugabe because Zimbabwe is far away and most Americans couldn’t find it on a map. It has little strategic geopolitical value. Back in 2017, Helen Andrews wrote a long piece for NRO observing that he reflected and greatly exacerbated his country’s problems, but he didn’t invent them. She also tackled the question of how things could have turned out differently, and ended up rejected a lot of the easy answers. These questions that arise are relevant to places much closer to home:

The most inviting answer to the question of what should have been done differently, which beckons like an oasis in the desert, is to blame the colonial regime. If only Rhodesia had been governed better, its oppressed native population would not have presented such an easy foothold to Marxist guerrillas. Alas, this particular oasis is a mirage — not because conditions for Africans were so splendid under Ian Smith and his predecessors, but because no amount of peace, prosperity, and good government has ever been a prophylactic against violent nationalism when other factors have made it an advantageous ideology to embrace. If nationalism were a function of oppression, there would have been a Mau Mau revolt in Hungary under the Soviets and rather less of one there under the Hapsburgs. Nationalism, like a contagious disease, does not discriminate.
 

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a national hero ?
i guess hitler was also considered a national hero at some point in time


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i cant help but wonder if our insolvent national carrier or air force has been tasked to bring back the carcass of africa's genocidal despot

They will probably bring him back on their flagship national carrier. Oh wait...
 

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They will probably bring him back on their flagship national carrier. Oh wait...
i doubt there would be enough space in the cargo hold for dis-grace's shopping, along with that of the litter of her loins
 
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