Rocket launchers missing - SANDF

Archer said:
Oh, so you use USA defence budgets when talking about something that happened in South Africa. What a blatant misuse of facts. RFIDs each have unique identifiers, and use one frequency (set at manufacture) so its a security nightmare. You cant roll the codes/frequencies, everything is static. And WTF does the Iraqi military have to do with anything. All I can see is sensationalism on your part. And no, passive RFID chips can only be read within 10m. So unless you saw an Iraqi spy satellite on your PnP roof, they cant read those tags. PS - PnP uses barcodes on their products in store, not RFID
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lol, 'sensationalism', chill bud. I was referring to the militaries in general. And yes, oviously they would be able to disable it or perhaps make it subliminal depending on the mission.

And yes they are planning on it: http://news.cnet.com/RFID-to-track-army-supplies-in-Iraq/2100-1008_3-5839786.html
http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/view/7818

Just not sure why they didn't already have this tech in place. Well Cna then

*here's the lemon and salt*
 
phenom said:
lol, 'sensationalism', chill bud. I was referring to the militaries in general. And yes, oviously they would be able to disable it or perhaps make it subliminal depending on the mission.

And yes they are planning on it: http://news.cnet.com/RFID-to-track-army-supplies-in-Iraq/2100-1008_3-5839786.html
http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/view/7818

Just not sure why they didn't already have this tech in place. Well Cna then

*here's the lemon and salt*
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This thread is about SA arms, not militaries in general, hence sensationalism. And just FYI, the RFIDs to be used in the first article are on the shipments, not the weapons themselves. So again, it would not help with the recovery of stolen weapons. Quite ironic how articles you find prove my point...
In order to improve visibility of supplies in the network, pallets and containers in Iraq will be RFID-tagged
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Archer said:
This thread is about SA arms, not militaries in general, hence sensationalism. And just FYI, the RFIDs to be used in those articles are on the shipments, not the weapons themselves. So again, it would not help with the recovery of stolen weapons. Quite ironic how articles you find prove my point...
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Nope they don't.

As he or she exits the armory, the RFID number on a tag attached to the gun is also read, thereby linking the weapon with that particular officer. If the officer then fails to return the weapon, an alert can be issued to department officials.
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second link: RFID's to be used by UK police.
 
phenom said:
Nope they don't.

second link: RFID's to be used by UK police.
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And how pray tell does that help you track stolen guns?? It doesnt. Wasnt that your whole point?? The UK thing is just a fancy way of locking them up. Where do you think military arms are kept? In a locked armory.
 
Archer said:
And how pray tell does that help you track stolen guns?? It doesnt. Wasnt that your whole point?? The UK thing is just a fancy way of locking them up. Where do you think military arms are kept? In a locked armory.
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Reduces the time for them to be recognised as stolen/lost. This heightens responsibility and the likelihood of recovery.
 
yofi said:
40mm rocket launchers ??????

Maybe referring to the 40mm grenade launcher that looks like a giant revolver - another SA innovation

iirc 6 shot revolver type magazine - dunno how much it weighs but must have been hell for a troepie to carry it
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Could also be the single shot launchers as well, I think the standard police issue ( they used to call them "stoppers" :D ) that fire tear gas and the large rubber bullet are also 40mm.
 
yofi said:
ye gads - 88mm rocket launchers - wonder if they are referring to the antique M20 "Super Bazooka" (successor to the Bazooka of WWII fame)

M20 "Super Bazooka" was used in Korean War.

To the best of my knowledge SA never developed an infantry portable AT rocket weapon.

M20 "Super Bazooka" was used by SADF - dunno about SANDF

ps - feared german WWII anti tank rocket Raketenpanzerbüchse (cloned from captured US Bazookas) also known panzerschreck was also 88mm
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I think that the Milan was copied. I must admit that I saw the 'Stalin Organ' copy having been stolen.
 
KhoisanX said:
In perspective, if the military has 100 000(rough guesstimate) R4/R5 rifles and six of them go missing over the course of a year that's 0.006% of the total. Those figures are almost not worth mentioning in relation to the total number of illegal weapons in circulation.
As for the mortars and rocket launchers, it would be just as important to know if there is any ammunition missing and exactly which weapons are missing. No good having just a launcher/tube for an obsolete, retired system.

I don't think these figures are all that bad, but it would be interesting to find out how we compare to other countries.
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Until you are the one looking down the barrel of that 0.006%
 
I wouldn't be surprised to hear of a CIT van getting an RPG up its tailpipe some time in the future.
 
I have shot a rocket launcher... it was a year ago about now.. all I can say is.. its one of the awesomest things I have EVER done...

BUT, other than that... having seen with my own eyes what those things can do... I hope they find them... ot we'll be ready stories about how bank robbers robbed a bank by blowing a hole in the wall of a bank with a rocket launcher...
 
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Natas said:
BUT, other than that... having seen with my own eyes what those things can do...
I hope they find them...
ot we'll be ready stories about how bank robbers robbed a bank by blowing a hole in the wall of a bank with a rocket launcher...
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IF the perps really wanted this stuff there are thousands floating around Moz , Angola , Zim , DRC etc etc

Probably where the AWB stocks up
 
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