Rugby in general.

Im here...

Phew... Lions almost did it again.

Thanks for the updates.

Bulls vs WP match was intense.
Allister Coetzee is really disappointed and he exactly that in the post match interviews. Anton van Zyl never lifted his head during the whole Q&A session.
 
Ashley Johnson's second try.

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I saw it on the highlights.

Terrible first line of defence but the finishing from Ashley was top class. Must be one of the tries of the season.
 
Ruan finds his feet in 1st game for his new club

Ulster 19 Glasgow 17
Ulster's new high-profile scrum-half Ruan Pienaar enjoyed a memorable unveiling at Ravenhill tonight, putting on an inspirational display to claim all the home points in the 19 -17 defeat of a spirited Glasgow Warriors side.
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Other changes to the line-up which drew last week at Connacht saw the season début of Simon Danielli at left-wing, the return of Niall O'Connor at out-half, and multiple changes in the second and back rows, with Johann Muller, Dan Tuohy, Pedrie Wannenburg and Robbie Diack all earning a place in the starting XV. Also notable tonight was a century of caps for Ulster captain Rory Best.

It took Pienaar all of 90 seconds to make an impression in his new home, trying his luck with a penalty attempt from well inside the Ulster half. The ambitious long-distance kick missed by only the narrowest of margins, but the Springbok scrum-half had already earned his first Ravenhill round of applause for the sheer audacity of his effort.

Duncan Weir gave Glasgow the lead on nine minutes with a penalty of his own, this one from a considerably more realistic distance clear of the Ulster 10-metre line. Worst still followed for Ulster 10 minutes later when a Glasgow clearance kick, again from Weir, popped out of Andrew Trimble's grasp and into the grateful hands of Daniel Van Der Merwe. The Canadian wing had the pace to make it to the line unopposed and, although the conversion missed, the Scots had a healthy lead at Ulster 0 Glasgow 8.

Pienaar atoned for his earlier miss on 15 minutes with a penalty which he clipped in off the left upright, and with the Scots penalised again three minutes later for coming in from the side, Ulster varied their approach with O'Connor kicking for touch. Despite good pressure from the line-out, Glasgow kept the Ulstermen at bay and, with the Scots soon penalised for offside, Pienaar struck again to shorten the gap at Ulster 6 Glasgow 8.

Ulster had the wind in their sails, and the Ruan Pienaar show continued on 25 minutes when the impressive Springbok picked up from a forceful Ulster drive and showed quick feet - and even quicker hands - to weave his way into the corner for his first try in the white and red jersey. The debutant converted his own score to propel his new team into the lead at Ulster 13 Glasgow 8, although Weir rapidly clawed three points back with a penalty after an errant drop goal attempt.

Pienaar almost broke through again five minutes before the break when his quickfire dummy on the Warriors' 22 fooled some - but not all - members of the Glaswegian rearguard, but the last minutes of the half were played out in the Ulster half, where Weir eventually added his third penalty of the evening to put his side one point up at the break.

Half-Time Score Ulster 13 Glasgow 14

Ulster started the second period with good possession and won a 43rd-minute penalty which Pienaar slotted home, with a little help from the crossbar, to redress the balance in their favour. Weir then emulated Pienaar's long-range attempt from the first period, putting over an exemplary kick from deep in his own half and edging his team back into the lead at Ulster 16 Glasgow 17.

With 25 minutes remaining, it was time for one side or the other to stamp its authority on the tie, which Ulster endeavoured to do with a Trimble raid down the right wing. After kicking on, the speedy winger appeared to be intentionally blocked and bundled out of play by Richie Vernon. Referee Stefano Penne, after consulting his touch-judge, declined to show Vernon a card, but duly awarded the penalty, which Ulster's new No. 9 steered agonisingly wide from the Glasgow 22.

On 65 minutes Weir attempted another extravagant penalty - this time from behind his own 10-metre line - but he too drove marginally off-target, much to the relief of the Ravenhill faithful. Ulster continued to chase the game and eventually earned a 70th-minute penalty which they elected to put into the corner.

The resulting line-out was won, but despite the Ulster forwards' best efforts, their pummelling drives were resisted time and again by the dogged Glasgow defence. Pragmatism was the order of the day when, after several blighted Ulster attempts to push over for the try, Glasgow infringed once more and Pienaar was on hand to kick his team back into the lead at Ulster 19 Glasgow 17.

Victory could have been confirmed two minutes from time with a final penalty, but Pienaar's kick from inside the 22 thudded off the upright and out of play. Glasgow were unable to win back the ball from the restart however, and the clock wound down to zero with Ulster camped in Warriors territory.

Full-Time Score Ulster 19 Glasgow 17
 
Oh, and if you feel the need to dig up proof of my supposed bias then feel free to whip out my previous posts about WP/Stormers too... I think you'll find my love for both is very similar.

I have no recollection of you stating that you will support whoever (Oz, NZ) is playing WP in S14 but you certainly said it of the Bulls. and as for slowing the ball in the last 5, it is a great tactic which, if your team had ever learnt to master, could well have won a certain S14 final. But thanks for the open play...
 
as for slowing the ball in the last 5, it is a great tactic which, if your team had ever learnt to master, could well have won a certain S14 final. But thanks for the open play...

I find it strange that teams don't practice the art of counter-rucking in this area more vigorously and then execute it on match day; especially when needed in situations like the last 5 minutes yesterday. It was good to see the Lions do it to the Cheetahs, but also only when the chips were down.

Hopefully our Bok coaching staff are making notes...
 
I'm a Sharks supporter so I don't support either of the teams that just played. So why is it that even in a game in which I am a neutral do the Bulls players always come across as *******s? King ******* is of course Jaco but he is followed closely by a number of his team mates.

Funny you had nothing to say on Kanko's Booboo.....

Anywayyyyy, I am looking forward to the weekend's rugby with the WP and the Sharks being the "big" match.

Side Note:
How would you guys feel if in order to play in the Semis or the Finals a player first has to have played in at least 4 or 5 other Currie Cup matches that year?
 
Funny you had nothing to say on Kanko's Booboo.....

Anywayyyyy, I am looking forward to the weekend's rugby with the WP and the Sharks being the "big" match.

Side Note:
How would you guys feel if in order to play in the Semis or the Finals a player first has to have played in at least 4 or 5 other Currie Cup matches that year?

Yes but you have five guys who can play wing. By the second last week, one is out for 6 months for a broken leg, one is out for two weeks strained calf, one just got himself suspended and one has just buggered up is hamstring in practice. Now, you have one on either wing and an empty bench because your other wing was playing Bok rugby and has not had 4 or 5 games. Bad idea.
 
Yes but you have five guys who can play wing. By the second last week, one is out for 6 months for a broken leg, one is out for two weeks strained calf, one just got himself suspended and one has just buggered up is hamstring in practice. Now, you have one on either wing and an empty bench because your other wing was playing Bok rugby and has not had 4 or 5 games. Bad idea.

I hear what you are saying.

I am just thinking that I like the Currie Cup a bit more when most of the Boks are not playing in it. This also helps develop the talent for the Future.
 
A Sharks vs Cheetahs final will be good for the Boks as then many of them can have a longer rest before the first game against Ireland.
 
So, Luke has apologised and wants to come home.

Imagine the dilemma. As a person of Afrikaans decent, I am the object of some of his words of ridicule. As a BULL, I am expected to despise him. Like many BULLS fans, I too am religious (as is Luke, for that matter). One of the founding principles of Christianity is in fact forgiveness.

Now, please, let this not be a religious debate - those, I cannot stand. No minds will be changed.

It is a frank discussion on Luke. I have reasons to dismiss his apology and I have better reasons to accept it. His last WP season, for example, was great - better than good. Without all the political pawn BS and the anti-afrikaaner sentiment, Luke is just an average guy and I wish him well. So, will he be welcomed back by others? Will his apology be accepted? On the face of it, as a Rugby fan, I say welcome - just not to the BULLS.
 
So, Luke has apologised and wants to come home.

Imagine the dilemma. As a person of Afrikaans decent, I am the object of some of his words of ridicule. As a BULL, I am expected to despise him. Like many BULLS fans, I too am religious (as is Luke, for that matter). One of the founding principles of Christianity is in fact forgiveness.

Now, please, let this not be a religious debate - those, I cannot stand. No minds will be changed.

It is a frank discussion on Luke. I have reasons to dismiss his apology and I have better reasons to accept it. His last WP season, for example, was great - better than good. Without all the political pawn BS and the anti-afrikaaner sentiment, Luke is just an average guy and I wish him well. So, will he be welcomed back by others? Will his apology be accepted? On the face of it, as a Rugby fan, I say welcome - just not to the BULLS.

Yep, read the whole thing as well. Most probably softening the blow for his return home (to PE)...
 
Pienaar scores his 2nd try for Ulster in as many games

8 October 2010, 10:06 pm ::
Match Report by Neil Carnduff
Ulster 30 Aironi 6
Ulster ticked all the boxes tonight at Ravenhill in their 2010/ 2011 Heineken Cup opener, running over four tries to seal an indispensable bonus point in the 30 - 6 defeat of tournament debutants Aironi.
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Changes from the line-up which finished off Glasgow Warriors last weekend were kept to a minimum, with Tim Barker, in at lock at the expense of Dan Tuohy, the only new face in the pack. The backs, meanwhile, remained unchanged other than at out-half, where Ian Humphreys was reinstated for his first appearance of the season, relegating Niall O'Connor to the bench. Aironi, meanwhile, displayed multiple changes from the line-up which lost 22 - 15 to Ulster last month in the Magners League, and were led out by former Ravenhill favourite Carlo Del Fava at lock.

Ulster wasted no time in getting started, with an exhilarating burst from Darren Cave in the first minute earning some good territory, before the ball broke to Ruan Pienaar just outside the 22. The scrum-half looked ready to pick up where he had left off after his grandstand performance against Glasgow, as he squared up to take on five or six men at once, but was quickly neutralised by the vigilant Italian defence. Ulster soon forced a penalty, however, which Pienaar dispatched from in front of the posts to get scoring underway at Ulster 3 Aironi 0.

A string of penalties then followed one after another. Aironi's veteran French out-half Ludovic Mercier equalised on five minutes, and could have edged his team into the lead five minutes later, but pulled his kick wide. Then it was Pienaar's turn to miss by an even slighter margin, clattering the left upright in the fourteenth minute. Finally, Mercier split the posts to end the series of errant kicks on 17 minutes, putting the Italians ahead at Ulster 3 Aironi 6.

Ulster reacted with composure and craft, firstly through an abortive raid by Cave brought back by an offside call, and then, decisively, through Andrew Trimble, who picked up on the right wing after some powerful mauling by the influential Robbie Diack. Pienaar's conversion was off-target, but Ulster had taken the lead with the very first try of the 2010/ 2011 Heineken Cup.

With Aironi's Marco Bartolami sinbinned on the half-hour mark for deliberately killing the ball, Ulster turned the pressure up a notch but, despite some progressive rugby - with a lightning-quick burst from Jamie Smith and Simon Danielli a stand-out moment - they failed to find the final killer ball. Bartolami returned to the field on 39 minutes with the score as it had been when he left but, ironically, as soon as Aironi were back to full strength, they fell further behind as Pienaar slotted over his second successful penalty of the evening on the stroke of half-time.

Half-Time Score Ulster 11 Aironi 6

Ulster came out for the second half determined to play a simpler, more direct approach, which paid dividends on 44 minutes when Ian Humphreys chased his own kick and capitalised on hesitant defending from the statuesque Italians to touch down in the left-hand corner. Pienaar's conversion went awry but the score sat comfortably at Ulster 16 Aironi 6.

Paddy Wallace and replacement Ian Whitten then combined on the right wing to produce the game's prettiest move thus far, but one pass too many got Ulster bogged down metres from the right-hand flag and the chance went begging. On the hour mark, Aironi got a rare excursion into the Ulster half, but posed little real threat, and before the Italians knew it, a Rory Best - Johann Muller tandem was rampaging down the right wing. A series of quick cross-field exchanges then found Simon Danielli wide on the left, and the Scot did well to hang on to the spinning ball and ground the third try in the corner. Humphreys, taking over kicking duties from Pienaar, converted to put the score at Ulster 23 Aironi 6.

After a false alarm on 63 minutes when Ulster touched down again in the left corner only to have play called back for an accidental offside, Pienaar secured the all-important fourth try and bonus point when he picked up five metres from the line and drove over. Humphreys kept up his 100% kicking record with the conversion to put some sheen on the score at Ulster 30 Aironi 6.

Defeated but not disheartened, Aironi mounted perhaps their most promising attack in the dying minutes, but proved to be lacking in penetration in the final quarter of the park, and Ulster resisted until the final whistle with energy to spare. A sterner task doubtless awaits in Biarritz next weekend in the second round of matches, but Brian McLauhglin's men head to the Basque Country in form, unbeaten in all competitions, and with maximum European points under their belts.

Full-Time Score Ulster 30 Aironi 6

Ulster

(15 - 9) J Smith, A Trimble, D Cave, P Wallace, S Danielli, I Humphreys, R Pienaar

(1 - 8) B Young, R Best (c), T Court, J Muller, T Barker, P Wannenburg, C Henry, R Diack

Replacements (16 - 23) N Brady, P McAllister, A Whitten, D Tuohy, W Faloon, P Marshall, I Whitten, D McIlwaine

Aironi

(15 - 9) D Demas, G Toniolatti, R Penney, G Pavan, G Venditti, L Mercier, T Tebaldi

(1 - 8) Al. De Marchi, R Santamaria, L Redolfini, C Del Fava (c), M Bortolami, A Benatti, A Birchill, N Williams

Replacements (16 - 23) L Ferraro, An. De Marchi, S Perugini, V Liebenburg, N Cattina, P Canavosio, G Pizarro, R Bocchino
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Preparing for the relegation battles?

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/CurrieCup/Lions-shock-Pumas-20101008

Pumas shock Lions
Johannesburg - The Lions signed off their Absa Currie Cup season in unspectacular fashion as they suffered a shock 34-27 defeat at the hands of a tenacious Pumas oufit at Coca-Cola Park in Johannesburg on Friday evening.

After the teams had retreated to the change-rooms at 17-all, the Pumas returned to the 'Lions Den' to tame the opposition with two thrilling second-half tries close to end of the match to crown their victory effort.

The five-try victory was worth five points to the Pumas while the Lions, with four tries, picked up two.

Straight from the kick-off, the visiting Pumas wasted no time in taking the game to the Lions, who seemed somewhat perplexed with their opponents' spirited display.

The Pumas' show of enterprise in the opening 10 minutes may have been worth as many points but instead they came away with five, courtesy of a Corn Steenkamp try (5-0).

During this passage of play Pumas flyhalf Elgar Watts missed a goalable penalty and a conversion.

The Lions needed some 15 minutes to see off the Pumas opening burst and scrumhalf Jano Vermaak led the charge before centre Waylon Murray supplied a scoring pass for flanker Derick Minnie to dot down for an unconverted try (5-5).

In the 21st minute the Lions snatched the lead with an unconverted try through rightwing Jannie Boshoff but their slender 10-5 lead disappeared four minutes later when the Pumas scored twice in quick succession through centre Shaun Venter and Steenkamp, one of which was converted by Watts (17-10).

Four minutes ahead of the break, Steenkamp was yellow carded for repeated infringements and the Lions' exploited the position two minutes later with a try by Murray.

This time Jantjies was on target with the conversion attempt to round off the first-half scoring at 17-all.

The Pumas returned in the second half looking to regain the initiative but the Lions absorbed the pressure before they created a turn-over which led to a converted try by their eighthman Warren Whitely to open up a seven-point lead (24-17).

In the process the Lions picked up a bonus point.

Just as the match approached the hour mark, both sides managed to tighten up their defences and excellent scoring attempts were stifled at either end of the field. Instead the scoreboard was kept ticking over with a penalty each by Jantjies and Watts (27-20).

But just when it looked like the Lions were finally starting to impose themselves on the match the Pumas turned the match on its head in the final 11 minutes of play with tries by scrumhalf Hendrik van der Nest and fullback Johan Jackson. Watts converted splendidly on both occasions from the touchline for a 34-27 matchwinning lead.

Scorers

Lions: Tries: Derick Minnie, Jannie Boshoff, Waylon Murray and Warren Whitely. Conversions: Elton Jantjies (2). Penalty: Jantjies.

Pumas: Tries: Corn Steenkamp (2), Shaun Venter, Hendrik van der Nest and Johan Jackson. Conversions: Elgar Watts (3). Penalty: Watts.
 
Extra motivation for the Bulls and WP... you don't want to face a Cheetahs team on top form in Bloem!!!

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/CurrieCup/Cheetahs-romp-to-victory-20101008

Cheetahs romp to victory

Phokeng - The Free State Cheetahs moved into second place on the Currie Cup log after hammering the bottom-placed Leopards 78-7 (halftime 47-0) in the teams’ final round-robin match played at the Royal Ba***eng Stadium near Rustenburg on Friday night.

he rampant Cheetahs, as is their way in these situations, showed their hosts absolutely no mercy on a cool and windless night, scoring 12 tries to finish the season on 47 log points -- five behind the Sharks, on 52, but three ahead of Western Province, who have 44.

WP will finish second if they manage to beat the Sharks on Saturday, while the defending champion Blue Bulls can draw level with the Cheetahs if they manage to beat Griquas with a bonus point.

However, the Free Staters’ huge win has certainly helped them in the points difference department, and they carry a 114-point cushion over their Pretoria rivals going into the weekend’s matches.

With such an advantage, the Cheetahs are now in pole position to host a semifinal should Allister Coetzee’s men slip up at Newlands.

The result of Friday’s match was never in doubt from the moment fullback Hennie Daniller crossed for the first of his two tries as early as the second minute.

The Leopards -- whose patchy record at the Royal Ba***eng Stadium suggests that it is far less of an intimidating to visiting teams than the more fortress-like Olen Park -- certainly looked to have one eye on the promotion-relegation battles to come and the 3,000 diehards who turned up to watch their side were left wondering whether they had just witnessed their Premier Division swansong.

The home side’s defence was at times non-existent as the Free Staters cut through at will, crossing for seven tries in the opening half and following that up with another five after the break.

Apart from Daniller’s brace, wingers Philip Snyman and Corné Uys also gorged themselves on two tries apiece in a night to remember for the Bloem-based back three.

Not to be outdone, the forwards weighed in with tries to eighthman Ashley Johnson, who is rapidly regaining the form that won him Springbok colours last year, try-scoring prop Coenie Oosthuizen, forgotten Bok hooker Adriaan Strauss, and veteran flanker Hendro Scholtz.

For the poor Leopards, who had to wait until the 79th minute to open their account through lock Christo van Niekerk, a miserable league season has mercifully come to an end. The record states: played 14, lost 14, points for 264, points against…654. Ouch!

For Naka Drotské’s men, an altogether more pleasing set of figures suggests that anybody who writes off their title credentials will once again do so at their peril.

Scorers:

Leopards 7 -- Try: Christo van Niekerk. Conversion: Clayton Durand.

Cheetahs 78 -- Tries: Meyer Bosman, Tertius Carse, Hennie Daniller (2), Ashley Johnson, Coenie Oosthuizen, Hendro Scholtz, Philip Snyman (2), Adriaan Strauss, Corné Uys (2). Conversions: Louis Strydom (6), Sias Ebersohn (3).
 
First semi-final for First Division... will play either EP Kings or Boland Kavaliers in the final.

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/CurrieCup/Eagles-pip-Griffons-20101008

Eagles pip Griffons

George - The SWD Eagles fashioned a remarkable come-from-behind effort to beat the Griffons 32-30 (halftime 18-27) in a Currie Cup First Division semifinal at Outeniqua Park in George on Friday evening.
The home side, who finished top of the First Division log, opened up an early lead -- only to watch as the visitors, who had finished fourth on the table, racked up 27 unanswered points to threaten a shock victory.

But the Eagles dug deep and finished the stronger of the two sides, and will now contest the First Division final against the winners of the second semi, between the EP Kings and the Boland Cavaliers.

The Eagles opened the scoring in the second minute when left wing Joe Breytenbach slid through from set move off a scrum on the Griffons’ 22.

Flyhalf Ambrose Barends, the competition’s top point scorer, kicked the conversion, then added a ninth-minute penalty to make it 10-0.

But the Griffons struck back on 14 minutes, loosehead prop Kevin Stevens powering his way over under the posts from a quick tap penalty to give flyhalf Jannie Myburgh the easiest of conversions.

The visitors then took an unexpected lead with a quarter gone when eighthman Nicky Steyn profited from an excellent break by veteran winger Eddie Fredericks to finish off what had been a long and impressive build-up by the Northern Free Staters.

Myburgh again made no mistake, and suddenly the home-town band fell silent in the stands as the sizeable crowd sensed that all was not well with their side.

The Eagles looked to have been a lifeline from the restart when Stevens was yellow-carded for foul play, but no sooner did the Griffons get their hands on the ball than it was centre Charl Weideman who scooted home to give his side a 21-10 lead.

Myburgh piled on the misery with two penalties on either side of the half hour as his side clocked up 27 unanswered points and opened up a 17-point lead.

The mute Eagles supporters suddenly found their voices again when Breytenbach cantered in for his brace and Barends kicked a second penalty on the stroke of halftime.

After the break, and with the Eagles resurgent, Myburgh squandered two chances at putting the Griffons further ahead but his penalty attempts flew wide. They proved to be costly misses in the final outcome.

You got the sense that the tide was turning ever so slightly, but turning none the less, and this was confirmed in more emphatic fashion when eighthman Jacques Engelbrecht barged over on the hour mark to cut the deficit to just two after Barends’ conversion.

With the Griffons’ Marnus Briedenhann in the sin bin, Eagles right winger Baldwin McBean then regained the lead for his side when he picked up a loose ball and raced away for their fourth try, much to the delight of the excitable locals.

Myburgh’s third penalty with 13 minutes remaining -- the Griffons’ first points of the second period -- made it 32-30 and helped set up a nailbiting conclusion, but it was the visitors who were left kicking themselves when the final whistle blew.

Scorers:

Eagles 32 -- Tries: Joe Breytenbach (2), Jacques Engelbrecht, Baldwin McBean. Conversions: Ambrose Barends (3). Penalties: Barends (2).

Griffons 30 -- Tries: Kevin Stevens, Nicky Steyn, Charl Weideman. Conversions: Jannie Myburgh (3). Penalties: Myburgh (3).
 
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