Rugby in general.

I thought of being graceful but then I thought how arrogant and arseholey some people are and have been about the Sharks being no hopers today ...... so to you lot, suck it!
 
And as for that dirty bastid Kuun, punching Bizzie in the nuts ...... I hope he gets cited, the dirty bastid.
 
WTF is it with this Ashley Johnson or whatever his name is from the Cheetahs? he looks like one of those thick dummies you see in american movies that gets picked on then goes postal on his classmates later. he needs a pair of shears for that mop of his.
 
Stupid bloody Januarie and Chilliboy get invited again to be part of the Bok training group ...... while so many other talented guys lose out, again. Keegan Daniels being just one of those losing out. It's shameful.


Preliminary Springbok Training Group:

Backs: Gio Aplon (Vodacom Western Province), Bjorn Basson (GWK Griquas), Juan de Jongh, Jean de Villiers, Bryan Habana (all Vodacom Western Province), Francois Hougaard (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Adrian Jacobs (The Sharks), Elton Jantjies (Xerox Lions), Ricky Januarie (Vodacom Western Province), Zane Kirchner (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Patrick Lambie, Lwazi Mvovo (both The Sharks), Wynand Olivier (Vodacom Blue Bulls), JP Pietersen (The Sharks), Morne Steyn (Vodacom Blue Bulls).

Forwards: Willem Alberts (The Sharks), Bakkies Botha (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Schalk Burger (Vodacom Western Province), Bismarck du Plessis, Jannie du Plessis (both The Sharks), Dean Greyling (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Alistair Hargreaves (The Sharks), Ashley Johnson (Vodacom Free State Cheetahs), Ryan Kankowski (The Sharks), Werner Kruger, Victor Matfield (both Vodacom Blue Bulls), Gerhard Mostert, Tendai Mtawarira (both The Sharks), Coenie Oosthuizen (Vodacom Free State Cheetahs), Dewald Potgieter, Chiliboy Ralepelle, Danie Rossouw (all Vodacom Blue Bulls), Juan Smith, Adriaan Strauss (both Vodacom Free State Cheetahs), Pierre Spies, Deon Steggman (both Vodacom Blue Bulls), CJ van der Linde (Vodacom Free State Cheetahs), Flip van der Merwe (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Duane Vermeulen (Vodacom Western Province).
 
Disagree with bolded names:

Preliminary Springbok Training Group:

Backs: Gio Aplon (Vodacom Western Province), Bjorn Basson (GWK Griquas), Juan de Jongh, Jean de Villiers, Bryan Habana (all Vodacom Western Province), Francois Hougaard (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Adrian Jacobs (The Sharks), Elton Jantjies (Xerox Lions), Ricky Januarie (Vodacom Western Province), Zane Kirchner (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Patrick Lambie, Lwazi Mvovo (both The Sharks), Wynand Olivier (Vodacom Blue Bulls), JP Pietersen (The Sharks), Morne Steyn (Vodacom Blue Bulls).

Forwards: Willem Alberts (The Sharks), Bakkies Botha (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Schalk Burger (Vodacom Western Province), Bismarck du Plessis, Jannie du Plessis (both The Sharks), Dean Greyling (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Alistair Hargreaves (The Sharks), Ashley Johnson (Vodacom Free State Cheetahs), Ryan Kankowski (The Sharks), Werner Kruger, Victor Matfield (both Vodacom Blue Bulls), Gerhard Mostert, Tendai Mtawarira (both The Sharks), Coenie Oosthuizen (Vodacom Free State Cheetahs), Dewald Potgieter, Chiliboy Ralepelle, Danie Rossouw (all Vodacom Blue Bulls), Juan Smith, Adriaan Strauss (both Vodacom Free State Cheetahs), Pierre Spies, Deon Steggman (both Vodacom Blue Bulls), CJ van der Linde (Vodacom Free State Cheetahs), Flip van der Merwe (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Duane Vermeulen (Vodacom Western Province).[/QUOTE]
 
Disagree

MickeyD said:
Disagree with bolded names:

Preliminary Springbok Training Group:

Backs: Gio Aplon (Vodacom Western Province), Bjorn Basson (GWK Griquas), Juan de Jongh, Jean de Villiers, Bryan Habana (all Vodacom Western Province), Francois Hougaard (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Adrian Jacobs (The Sharks), Elton Jantjies (Xerox Lions), Ricky Januarie (Vodacom Western Province), Zane Kirchner (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Patrick Lambie, Lwazi Mvovo (both The Sharks), Wynand Olivier (Vodacom Blue Bulls), JP Pietersen (The Sharks), Morne Steyn (Vodacom Blue Bulls).

Forwards: Willem Alberts (The Sharks), Bakkies Botha (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Schalk Burger (Vodacom Western Province), Bismarck du Plessis, Jannie du Plessis (both The Sharks), Dean Greyling (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Alistair Hargreaves (The Sharks), Ashley Johnson (Vodacom Free State Cheetahs), Ryan Kankowski (The Sharks), Werner Kruger, Victor Matfield (both Vodacom Blue Bulls), Gerhard Mostert, Tendai Mtawarira (both The Sharks), Coenie Oosthuizen (Vodacom Free State Cheetahs), Dewald Potgieter, Chiliboy Ralepelle, Danie Rossouw (all Vodacom Blue Bulls), Juan Smith, Adriaan Strauss (both Vodacom Free State Cheetahs), Pierre Spies, Deon Steggman (both Vodacom Blue Bulls), CJ van der Linde (Vodacom Free State Cheetahs), Flip van der Merwe (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Duane Vermeulen (Vodacom Western Province).
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I am sorry, I must disagree with you for most of the names you have seen fit to say are not worthy of wearing a Springbok jearsy is baseless.

I may be new to the forum but have certanlitly been reading the debate going on here so just hear me out.

First: Adrian Jacobs - although considered by many to be just another BEE/AA player he can be quite a handful if you play him right and has played well for the Sharks in the past although I must confess that he is probably not suited to Northen Hemisphere rugby.

Ricky Janurie - I understand peoples frustration with him and I feel that he never really deserved to play for the Springboks but one must remember he has won us some games and as of him rejoining WP he has seemed to regain form.

Patrick Lambie - Have you not been watching the CC? He has been playing exceptionally well and is a better running flyhalf than Morne is although he needs to get better at his goal kicking but is certinly a future prospect that must be looked at.

JP Petiersan - He is a good wing, he may be out of form but what do you expect after a long injury lay off, give him a chance to prove his worth and then make a decision.

Alister Hargreaves - Although he is no Victor or Bakkies we do need some locks so why not experiment, I am not sure what happend to Bekker injured? gone overseas?

The Beast - Come on now he is also is just coming back from a long off spell, and I have seen nothing wrong with his performence thus far. Just remember how well he has played for his adopted country in the past.

Well thats it, the others I havent seen play or havent noticed as much but I do agree with regards to Zane Kirchner, there are better fullbacks out there, Stefan Tereblanche is 35 and is still better than him.
 
FoXtroT said:
I am sorry, I must disagree with you for most of the names you have seen fit to say are not worthy of wearing a Springbok jearsy is baseless.

I may be new to the forum but have certanlitly been reading the debate going on here so just hear me out.

First: Adrian Jacobs - although considered by many to be just another BEE/AA player he can be quite a handful if you play him right and has played well for the Sharks in the past although I must confess that he is probably not suited to Northen Hemisphere rugby.

Ricky Janurie - I understand peoples frustration with him and I feel that he never really deserved to play for the Springboks but one must remember he has won us some games and as of him rejoining WP he has seemed to regain form.

Patrick Lambie - Have you not been watching the CC? He has been playing exceptionally well and is a better running flyhalf than Morne is although he needs to get better at his goal kicking but is certinly a future prospect that must be looked at.

JP Petiersan - He is a good wing, he may be out of form but what do you expect after a long injury lay off, give him a chance to prove his worth and then make a decision.

Alister Hargreaves - Although he is no Victor or Bakkies we do need some locks so why not experiment, I am not sure what happend to Bekker injured? gone overseas?

The Beast - Come on now he is also is just coming back from a long off spell, and I have seen nothing wrong with his performence thus far. Just remember how well he has played for his adopted country in the past.

Well thats it, the others I havent seen play or havent noticed as much but I do agree with regards to Zane Kirchner, there are better fullbacks out there, Stefan Tereblanche is 35 and is still better than him.
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Debate is why we are here!!

Adi Jacobs - sorry not enough game time this year - nothing to do with colour. Meyer Bosman and Stefan Terblanche had better seasons.

Ricky Januarie - even Allister Coetzee jerked him in today's semi. He is overweight!!!

Patrick Lambie - awesome talent and definitely a future Bok. Will probably make the dirt tracker team this year. BUT - in what position? If they do not decide on a single position, he will end up like Brent Russell.

JP Pietersen - Is he really one of our top 4 wings right now? Aplon, Habana, Mvovo and Basson are my top 4. Then there's Van den Heever, Michale Killian, etc.

Alister Hargreaves - again, will probably make the dirt tracker team. Bekker is seriously injured (pity!). But where is the Lions skipper and lock: Franco van der Merwe - very highly rated by John Mitchell.

The Beast - sorry but he was shown up in the last Tests.

PS. btw I am a huge SHARKIE!!!
 
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