rumor has it....

blah blah, government this, companies that. Rumour Shmumour.

I hope we don't get it - it's gonna make traffic even worse! :D
 
GavinMannion said:
Hey I have a mate in London who read in the papers the other day that the world is going to end and Armageddon is coming... Seriously it was in the paper.

Also a story about a guy who gave birth to a dog and then something else about Hawaii getting the 2010 WC...

These stores are starting to get pathetic,
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Serious?
 
Imagine the taxi operators doing what they did today on the day of the World Cup final ... Can FIFA take this change? The ANC government needs to sort out the messes in this country very quickly or we are going to lose it.

Die skrif is teen die muur ...
 
FIFA stands to lose money if cup is in Africa.

Read my lips: "No World Cup for South Africa in 2010"


FIFA has made money on each of the last three World Cups and now stands to lose money in Africa if things remain as they stand. For the first time, FIFA is having to almost wholly subsidize this World Cup — instead of just pocketing the TV rights money — and costs associated with the 2010 Cup have ballooned from $300 million to $1.59 billion.

South Africa may just be too big a gamble for an organization that is used to winning.
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See full article here:http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/6095966
 
IamCanadian said:
Read my lips: "No World Cup for South Africa in 2010"


FIFA has made money on each of the last three World Cups and now stands to lose money in Africa if things remain as they stand. For the first time, FIFA is having to almost wholly subsidize this World Cup — instead of just pocketing the TV rights money — and costs associated with the 2010 Cup have ballooned from $300 million to $1.59 billion.
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South Africa may just be too big a gamble for an organization that is used to winning.
See full article here:http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/6095966
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SA is significantly ahead of where Germany was at the equivalent time, in some areas (including sponsorship deals, and tv rights) and behind in others.

Funny, that article dug up a Blatter quote - but missed this recent one:
Blatter said:
"Plan A is the 2010 World Cup will be staged in South Africa.
"Plan B is the 2010 World Cup will be staged in South Africa.
"Plan C is the 2010 World Cup will be staged in South Africa."
[iol]
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chiskop said:
SA is significantly ahead of where Germany was at the equivalent time, in some areas (including sponsorship deals, and tv rights) and behind in others.

Funny, that article dug up a Blatter quote - but missed this recent one:
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It's funny how South Africans seem unable to see reality. It makes me think back to when many of the whites in SA went blithely on with their lives during apartheid also oblivious to what the outside world was thinking.

Deja vu if you ask me.

You just believe the propoganda that the ANC feeds you. The outside world thinks differently and that is what counts. I have observed that there is a growing wave of thinking that will engulf SA in the next several years that thinks that SA cannot do it in spite of what the ANC or Blatter says.

All I can say is that you have to change the perception of people overseas where it counts and not in SA.
 
IamCanadian said:
All I can say is that you have to change the perception of people overseas where it counts and not in SA.
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Wrong, again. SA just needs to keep or renew the faith that FIFA currently has in the country. That's all that matters.
 
What Im finding odd is that all the "foriegners" who have a bad perception about SA hosting the world cup seem to be living in hotbeds for SA ex-pats - London, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and so on.

I haven't heard of anything coming from the Japanese press (and they can be pretty critical of countries preparations for things) and Germany seems to be maintaining a tone of "it was bloody difficult to host this thing, we struggled to get it right so good luck". The French press seems typical of the French press more interested if their is some sort of scandal to follow than anything else. Quite frankly there seems to be two stories one that the world cup will be taken away because there is no way an african country can pull it off - this is absolute racialist twak, and the other that irrespective of any perceptions out their SA will be ready and FIFA will never consider relocating the World Cup - which seems overly optomistic and unrealistic. The reality is as I see it that the SA Gov is doing everything it can to make sure we will be ready, and that the technical glitches are being ironed out as time goes by. The set up looks good on paper and so on, where I don't think we are ready and its one of those things that we will either get right concerns a mindset about who should be leading the process towards readiness and at the moment there seems to be a very strong emphasis on government as the ultimate powers that be.

xtermin8or said:
We are on schedule, but won't be ready ? is it me or you ?
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is that AFRICAN TIME schedule or a regular schedule.
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:lol: But the point is being on schedule is a good sign but isn't a guarentee that things will happen correctly. Just because you woke up at the rights time were ready to leave at the right time and were therefore perfectly on schedule when you started your motor vehicle doesn't mean you'll be at work on time (which is true even if you are ahead of schedule) of course if your schedule says leave when work begins of course you'll be late.
 
I hope South Africa will be able to host the 2010 World Cup successfully, but I'm wondering :

Would you as a tourist risk going to a country where, on average, 50 people are murdered a day?

So, we might host the World Cup, but not get the crowds and tourists we need for it to be profitable?
 
kingrob said:
I hope South Africa will be able to host the 2010 World Cup successfully, but I'm wondering :

Would you as a tourist risk going to a country where, on average, 50 people are murdered a day?

So, we might host the World Cup, but not get the crowds and tourists we need for it to be profitable?
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My question is how many tourists have been murdered in South Africa? Most of those killed live in places like Hillbrow, Khayelitsha, Nyanga and parts of the Cape Flats...last time I checked these weren't popular tourist destinations.
 
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My question is how many tourists have been murdered in South Africa? Most of those killed live in places like Hillbrow, Khayelitsha, Nyanga and parts of the Cape Flats...last time I checked these were popular tourist destinations.
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So you're saying it's OK that South Africans are murdered, as long as the tourists go unharmed?
 
No it's not OK that South Africans are murdered...if you read between the lines you'd have noticed that all the places with the highest murder rates black townships...if the murder rate was 50/day in Claremont you'd shout genocide and ask for UN Security Council intervention.
 
Paul Hjul said:
What Im finding odd is that all the "foriegners" who have a bad perception about SA hosting the world cup seem to be living in hotbeds for SA ex-pats - London, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and so on.

I haven't heard of anything coming from the Japanese press (and they can be pretty critical of countries preparations for things) and Germany seems to be maintaining a tone of "it was bloody difficult to host this thing, we struggled to get it right so good luck". The French press seems typical of the French press more interested if their is some sort of scandal to follow than anything else. Quite frankly there seems to be two stories one that the world cup will be taken away because there is no way an african country can pull it off - this is absolute racialist twak, and the other that irrespective of any perceptions out their SA will be ready and FIFA will never consider relocating the World Cup - which seems overly optomistic and unrealistic. The reality is as I see it that the SA Gov is doing everything it can to make sure we will be ready, and that the technical glitches are being ironed out as time goes by. The set up looks good on paper and so on, where I don't think we are ready and its one of those things that we will either get right concerns a mindset about who should be leading the process towards readiness and at the moment there seems to be a very strong emphasis on government as the ultimate powers that be.
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Paul, SA has about 30 months to pull off something that needs years of preparation and years of existing infrastructure that is not falling apart.

If SA does manage to prepare for this in 30 months then great. But let's be realistic. How come Australia is ready to take it on at the drop of a hat and the population of Australia is only 20 million? SA has more than double the populatin of OZ and they could not do this at the drop of a hat like Oz could. SA is in Africa and we all know that Africa has unique challenges.

I might add that one of the people who said that SA could not pull this off in 30 months is an engineer who is working on the project in SA.
 
OMW you can't give it to Australia............... rather Kazakhstan or something.
But we can't actually play soccer. Hmmmmmmm. And our coach made the world's best team suck at the world cup........
 
kingrob said:
I hope South Africa will be able to host the 2010 World Cup successfully, but I'm wondering :

Would you as a tourist risk going to a country where, on average, 50 people are murdered a day?

So, we might host the World Cup, but not get the crowds and tourists we need for it to be profitable?
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7.3 million people visited SA in 2005, according to StatsSA - and that's even without an attraction like the WC, I don't think there's anything to worry about on that score
 
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