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RWC: No govt approval, but...
16/07/2007 22:30 - (SA)
Stephen Nell, Die Burger


Cape Town - The list of 30 players selected to represent South Africa at the Rugby World Cup tournament later this year does not have to be submitted to the government for approval.
SA Rugby Union (Saru) deputy president Mike Stofile made this clear on Monday, saying, "It has nothing to do with government.

"I hate this notion that comes up time and again that, before the announcement of a team or a squad, it (the names) must go to the minister of sport or the chair of the parliamentary portfolio committee on sport for approval.

"Rugby is controlled by rugby people; not by government," Stofile said.

SA Rugby will announce the squad of 30 players for this year's World Cup tournament on Saturday.

It has been widely speculated that only six black players will be included and that political interference could take place.

Players who have been mentioned are prop Gurthro Steenkamp, scrumhalf Ricky Januarie, centre Waylon Murray and wings Ashwin Willemse, Bryan Habana and Akona Ndungane.

Stofile said rugby, as a sports code, should be mature enough to make the correct decisions on its own.

"We should do the right thing and apply transformation. As a sports code we should be mature enough to know how to manage our affairs. We must create equal opportunities for white and black players"

Six black players would not be enough


Stofile said the squad of 30 had to be approved by Saru president Oregan Hoskins.
Cedrick Frolick, vice-chairperson of the parliamentary portfolio committee on sport, said on Monday six black players would not be enough.

"Six will definitely be unacceptable," he said. "If you look at the players South Africa has at its disposal, more than six can certainly be chosen."

Frolick did not want to name an acceptable figure. He did say, however, that it was important that players who were selected should be given opportunities to play.

"We'll just wait and see what happens. There were opportunities during the Tri-Nations to create chances for players such as Wayne Julies and Hilton Lobberts but it did not happen."

Butana Komphela, chair of the sports portfolio committee, said he did not want to play a numbers game.

"Indications from rugby sources are that this squad will not be representative," he said.
"We are fastening our safety belts but must support the announcement."

There was no chance that the passports of the players would be withheld if the team were not representative, Frolick said.
"The ANC's position regarding passports is that it is anyone's constitutional right to have one. If can be withdrawn for criminal reasons but this does not apply here."

Eish! I don't know where to start!

Another round in the ongoing saga that is SA Rugby is brewing.

Saturday 16:30 - 17:00 Rugby IRB Rugby W-Cup Team Announcement - LIVE Supersport 1.

.........and then all hell breaks loose again!

also http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=6&click_id=194&art_id=vn20070716090504918C332792
 
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Well, coming from another angle, but still on the same page, Butana Komphela, chairman of the parliamentary Portfolio Committee on Sport was asked the following.

You wouldn’t like it if the teams playing in the 2010 World Cup were not full strength, yet you propose we send our rugby team to this year’s Rugby World Cup based on the demographics of the country. Will that be our best side?

If the rugby team go to France after the President has signed the Sport Amendment Bill into law, that team will have to conform to the Act. If not, they will be in contravention of the law. If that happens, they will be stopped. When the Australian cricket team were supposed to play in Zimbabwe their prime minister said the team would not be allowed to go because there were no human rights there, and the team didn’t go.

Our government will do the same. We will take appropriate action by stopping them from leaving the country if necessary. We will hit them hard. People must understand we are a government and South Africa is not a banana republic. Rugby wants to have its own government. This country has only one government, led by President Mbeki.

This guy is a moron.
 
transformation needs to apply to soccer as well. I still maintain that in any sport transformation must begin at the bottom, at the grassroots level, its not a top down process. the 2010 soccer team should then also represent the demographics.
 
transformation needs to apply to soccer as well. I still maintain that in any sport transformation must begin at the bottom, at the grassroots level, its not a top down process. the 2010 soccer team should then also represent the demographics.

Please, spare me this eroneous argument. It keeps comming up and it's just plain wrong in a discussion about 1)transformation and 2)transformation in rugby.

Transformation has never been touted as anything but the assisted advancement of "previously disadvantaged" (read non-white) players. In soccer it was not and is not neccessary!

If you would like to motivate for assisted advancement of previously advantaged players in soccer, go ahead. I think it's a different thread though.:cool:
 
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transformation needs to apply to soccer as well. I still maintain that in any sport transformation must begin at the bottom, at the grassroots level, its not a top down process. the 2010 soccer team should then also represent the demographics.

The last Bafana team to ply was representative of the country, there were 2 white guys in it. Fernandez and Carnell
 
Fine, let there be transformation. But then transformation needs to be applied to ALL sports, including : Stick-fighting, Umphuco (from the Xhosa word ukuphuca "to play at chuckies" - a game of pitch and toss) and Iitoti (tins).
 
Fine, let there be transformation. But then transformation needs to be applied to ALL sports, including : Stick-fighting, Umphuco (from the Xhosa word ukuphuca "to play at chuckies" - a game of pitch and toss) and Iitoti (tins).

It seems you left out the smileys suggesting that this post is a joke!
 
Rugby is already representative of its supporter base. Time for Stofile & Co. to realize it. I think the Bok team selected is fair and should be supported by all South Africans.
 
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