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Hi All,

I currently have a 2nd gen i5. I need to upgrade which will be the CPU, Ram and Motherboard.
I am looking on Evetechs website at the upgrade kits and have these in mind as it is within my budget.
They all similar priced about 5k

1. Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G with MSI b450m pr-VDH max
2. Ryzen 5 5650G with a520m
3. Ryzen 5 4500 with MSI b450m pr-VDH max
4. Ryzen 5 3600 prime with A320m

I am not sure how good these are but they are within my budget.

Please help me choose. I am a gamer and will be adding a GPU at a later stage
 
carnagelan said:
Hi All,

I currently have a 2nd gen i5. I need to upgrade which will be the CPU, Ram and Motherboard.
I am looking on Evetechs website at the upgrade kits and have these in mind as it is within my budget.
They all similar priced about 5k

1. Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G with MSI b450m pr-VDH max
2. Ryzen 5 5650G with a520m
3. Ryzen 5 4500 with MSI b450m pr-VDH max
4. Ryzen 5 3600 prime with A320m

I am not sure how good these are but they are within my budget.

Please help me choose. I am a gamer and will be adding a GPU at a later stage
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Only the 2 with the G suffix have built in Graphics cards, the other 2 do not. So take that into account
 
Lupus said:
Only the 2 with the G suffix have built in Graphics cards, the other 2 do not. So take that into account
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yes i do know that. I have a 2gb gpu that i am using. I am just not sure which would actually be better.
 
carnagelan said:
Hi All,

I currently have a 2nd gen i5. I need to upgrade which will be the CPU, Ram and Motherboard.
I am looking on Evetechs website at the upgrade kits and have these in mind as it is within my budget.
They all similar priced about 5k

1. Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G with MSI b450m pr-VDH max
2. Ryzen 5 5650G with a520m
3. Ryzen 5 4500 with MSI b450m pr-VDH max
4. Ryzen 5 3600 prime with A320m

I am not sure how good these are but they are within my budget.

Please help me choose. I am a gamer and will be adding a GPU at a later stage
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All those kits come with a single 8gb ram stick which means running in single channel mode which has a big impact on performance, secondly 16gb is the minimum you should aim for these days.

I see those kits come to R5.5k, if you could stretch your budget to R6.5k you should be able to get an i5-12400f+MB+16GB ram which would be a much better performer.
 
ponder said:
All those kits come with a single 8gb ram stick which means running in single channel mode which has a big impact on performance, secondly 16gb is the minimum you should aim for these days.

I see those kits come to R5.5k, if you could stretch your budget to R6.5k you should be able to get an i5-12400f+MB+16GB ram which would be a much better performer.
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Or they could just scroll down and add another 8gb for R599?
 
carnagelan said:
Hi All,

I currently have a 2nd gen i5. I need to upgrade which will be the CPU, Ram and Motherboard.
I am looking on Evetechs website at the upgrade kits and have these in mind as it is within my budget.
They all similar priced about 5k

1. Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G with MSI b450m pr-VDH max
2. Ryzen 5 5650G with a520m
3. Ryzen 5 4500 with MSI b450m pr-VDH max
4. Ryzen 5 3600 prime with A320m

I am not sure how good these are but they are within my budget.

Please help me choose. I am a gamer and will be adding a GPU at a later stage
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I took a peek and I see these are all discounted on Evetech. That's because all this tech is essentially EOL since AMD is moving to AM5. This is coming from a guy who recently had to drop 3.5k on a new mobo after his b450 mobo randomly died, but I would hold out a little bit longer if I were you. The A320 mobo that comes with the Evetech bundle is just a waste of money, and I have no idea about the quality of that RAM.

That being said, if your budget is tight I'd recommend saving up a bit more and getting something that is still at least slightly more upgradeable. Basically a board that can support a 5800X3D, the fastest processor you can buy (even if it's just a 3600 for now), and at least 2x8 gig sticks of ram. This way you still have some upgrade paths available to you with the mobo, and the ram will max out pretty much whatever games you can throw at it today.
 
zolly said:
I took a peek and I see these are all discounted on Evetech. That's because all this tech is essentially EOL since AMD is moving to AM5. This is coming from a guy who recently had to drop 3.5k on a new mobo after his b450 mobo randomly died, but I would hold out a little bit longer if I were you. The A320 mobo that comes with the Evetech bundle is just a waste of money, and I have no idea about the quality of that RAM.

That being said, if your budget is tight I'd recommend saving up a bit more and getting something that is still at least slightly more upgradeable. Basically a board that can support a 5800X3D, the fastest processor you can buy (even if it's just a 3600 for now), and at least 2x8 gig sticks of ram. This way you still have some upgrade paths available to you with the mobo, and the ram will max out pretty much whatever games you can throw at it today.
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I have someone that wants to sell be a Ryzen 5 3600 and MSI MGP x570 gaming plus for R5200 but this is with out ram. Is that a good price and/or a good setup. This is just the cpu on motherboard. nothing else
 
carnagelan said:
I have someone that wants to sell be a Ryzen 5 3600 and MSI MGP x570 gaming plus for R5200 but this is with out ram. Is that a good price and/or a good setup. This is just the cpu on motherboard. nothing else
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The x570 is a fancy MB that contributes nothing to performance, you can buy a new r5 5600 + B550 MB for R5300 which will be a much better performer.
 
ponder said:
Which brings you to R6.1k while R6.5k will get you the i5 12400f outperforming every one of those package deals.
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Depends on the system he is looking at, though honestly I'd not touch a single one of those, perhaps going to look at Carbonite?
 
ponder said:
All those kits come with a single 8gb ram stick which means running in single channel mode which has a big impact on performance, secondly 16gb is the minimum you should aim for these days.

I see those kits come to R5.5k, if you could stretch your budget to R6.5k you should be able to get an i5-12400f+MB+16GB ram which would be a much better performer.
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If i look on the CPU benchmark the 5650G beats the 12400f
 
I have decided to purchase a component every month and decided on the intel 12500.
First month will be the motherboard, then the CPU and then 32gb ram. So in 3 months i should have everything
 
carnagelan said:
I have decided to purchase a component every month and decided on the intel 12500.
First month will be the motherboard, then the CPU and then 32gb ram. So in 3 months i should have everything
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Rather save up for those 3 months and purchase everything at the same time, this way you get to test everything at the same time and new hardware might also be released during that time.
 
carnagelan said:
If i look on the CPU benchmark the 5650G beats the 12400f
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Don't pay to much attention to artificial benchmarks, the r5 5600 outperforms the r5 pro 5650g according to that site yet in real life gaming benchmark the 12400f beats the r5 5600.

www.techspot.com

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 vs. Intel Core i5-12400F

We're comparing the Ryzen 5 5600 and Core i5-12400F mainstream CPUs across a range of games at 1080p and 1440p using four tiers of GPU: RTX 3060,...
www.techspot.com www.techspot.com

Intel Core i5-12400 vs AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Face-Off: The Gaming Value Showdown

Core i5 vs Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7, fight!
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com
 
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