SA fracking could move ahead quickly

[Hemi300c]

Fracking can be good but under the cANCer it can only be bad, very bad.

 

[lucifir]

Fracking can be good but under the cANCer it can only be bad, very bad.

I highly doubt the gov is actually going to be doing the fracking .... but I am sure they will take more than their slice of the pie

 

[w1z4rd]

Fracking can be good but under the cANCer it can only be bad, very bad.

Is destabilizing our land and contaminating our water for short term solutions really worth it it in the long term? Its cheap and nasty and will cost us a lot more than you realize.

 

[daveza]

Not technically fracking, but shows what can happen when you use high pressure water injection.

[video=youtube_share;M9_JWuSxqmU]http://youtu.be/M9_JWuSxqmU[/video]

 

[ChocolateBadger]

[video=youtube_share;YmB0iTfug_g]http://youtu.be/YmB0iTfug_g[/video]

 

[abandonallhope]

Not technically fracking, but shows what can happen when you use high pressure water injection.

And this shows what has happened many times mining coal :
[video=youtube;F0g8KJpGwAs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0g8KJpGwAs[/video]

 

[abandonallhope]

Me either. I own two technology companies, my wife is a doctor, I am involved in politics, and probably older and wealthier than abandonallhope.. but yeah. Facts have never got in the way of abandonallhope opinion (as you can see by his opinion on Dawkins). /shrug

Does being a politician in a banana republic, in terms of politics, like SA make your opinions more valid ? I don't understand why you mention that. Everybody knows it's one big circus, it's like being proud of pissing against the wind.

 

[Paul_S]

Once we get our own energy supply to more reasonable levels, we will get more investment into the country as well as increase the real value of the rand

Sasol produce a significant amount of fuel from coal but they sell it at the current brent crude prices if I'm not mistaken.
What makes you think that the government won't allow the same to happen if fracking goes ahead?

Insane profits for the private companies doing the fracking while the average man in the street sees no relief from fuel prices ...

 

[w1z4rd]

Does being a politician in a banana republic, in terms of politics, like SA make your opinions more valid ? I don't understand why you mention that. Everybody knows it's one big circus, it's like being proud of pissing against the wind.

I said it because of your intentional misrepresentation of my character. Im a techno geek. Not a hippie.

 

[abandonallhope]

Funny thing. We actually don't know what the 'breathtakingly beautifull' Karoo looked like before we let all those delicious sheep and goats loose on it. It was no paradise, but there was a lot more plants.

Are you saying that the sheep and goats grazed the Karoo into what it is ? That sounds like a bit of a stretch.

 

[lucifir]

Sasol produce a significant amount of fuel from coal but they sell it at the current brent crude prices if I'm not mistaken.
What makes you think that the government won't allow the same to happen if fracking goes ahead?

Insane profits for the private companies doing the fracking while the average man in the street sees no relief from fuel prices ...

hopefully that will not happen, but at the very least, I see eskom interested in this, so it should help with electricity demand and hopefully pricing

 

[abandonallhope]

Sis.... you dont have to insult my wife...thats a new low.

It's probably too late, but before you report it, look up what the word emancipated actually means.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Exactly what is shale gas? Is it some "mineral" that can be processed to produce crude oil?

:erm:

No, it's natural gas that's trapped in shale rock formations. You crack the rock open using millions of litres of water laced with chemicals, which then releases the gas. The gas is then captured and burned to generate energy.

 

[daveza]

:erm:

You crack the rock open using millions of litres of water laced with chemicals, which then releases the gas.

Chemicals which the fracking companies refuse to divulge.

We do know that benzine is one of them.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Chemicals which the fracking companies refuse to divulge.

We do know that benzine is one of them.

I don't think they know themselves, tbh. Just dump excess chemicals in and hope for the best.

 

[abandonallhope]

Chemicals which the fracking companies refuse to divulge.

We do know that benzine is one of them.

You have some pretty critical information there champ, I'd get in contact with somebody about that benzine being used.

http://fracfocus.org/chemical-use/what-chemicals-are-used

That doesn't look like a refusal to divulge.

 

[daveza]

A basic visual of how fracking works.

http://www.dangersoffracking.com/

 

[w1z4rd]

A basic visual of how fracking works.

http://www.dangersoffracking.com/

Wow, that puts it in perspective. Thanks for that.

 

[daveza]

So where does this water come from ?

In South Africa, the fracking process can require around 20 million litres of fresh water to frack one well. According to Shell, there can be as many as 32 wells on one well pad. This would mean that about 640 million litres will be used to frack 32 wells (for only one well pad). Each well pad can be between one and two and a half hectares in size.



There can be four to six well pads in an area of 10 km2. The well pads can be spaced two to three kilometres apart. This would relate to up to almost four billion litres of water that can be used per 10 square kilometres.

 

[abandonallhope]

I'll just leave this here :
http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/opin...ises-gaslands-fracking-fantasies#.UhdLtJIwcZB