SA Politics Thread Part 10 : The GNU Has Crashed

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DA supporters always excuse their incompetence by saying they did not have majority in the metros they governed after 2016, but they are never going to get a majority soon, which means they have no business wanting to govern anywhere in a coalition.
There's a difference. They were effectively running minority governments at EFF gunpoint. It was bound to fail at some point.

But this has been told to you ad nauseam...
Whilst NMB and Joburg could be explained since the governments there were unstable, they had a full uninterrupted 8 years in Tshwane to show everyone their famed good governance, they failed in a manner that no government of Tshwane has ever failed before.
Full uninterrupted 8 years? Where?

2016 - 2020 = DA minority governments held hostage by EFF
2020 - 2021 = Illegal ANC provincial administration
2021 - 2024 = DA majority coalition
2024 - now = ANC coalition with ASA puppet mayor

The only time you could say DA had a stable chance was 2021 - 2024. So they had a proper chance to try and completely reverse 18 years of ANC misrule within 3 - 4 years?
 
There's a difference. They were effectively running minority governments at EFF gunpoint. It was bound to fail at some point.

But this has been told to you ad nauseam...

Full uninterrupted 8 years? Where?

2016 - 2020 = DA minority governments held hostage by EFF
2020 - 2021 = Illegal ANC provincial administration
2021 - 2024 = DA majority coalition
2024 - now = ANC coalition with ASA puppet mayor

The only time you could say DA had a stable chance was 2021 - 2024. So they had a proper chance to try and completely reverse 18 years of ANC misrule within 3 - 4 years?
From ChatGPT:
t is not entirely reasonable to expect the DA—or any party—to fully turn around nearly two decades of ANC misrule in Tshwane within a single term (or even less, given disruptions). Here’s a breakdown of why:




⚙️ Realistic Constraints the DA Faced (2016–2021 and beyond)


1. They Never Had a Majority


  • In both 2016 and 2021, the DA did not win a majority in Tshwane.
  • They governed through coalitions and informal support (especially from the EFF in 2016).
  • Coalitions in South Africa—especially at local level—are notoriously fragile and slow-moving.

2. Legacy of ANC-era Mismanagement


  • The city inherited:
    • Bloated staff structures
    • Failing infrastructure (electricity, water, roads)
    • Questionable contracts and procurement processes
    • Crippling debt and billing crises
  • Fixing this requires long-term planning, institutional reform, and cooperation from officials, many of whom were ANC-era appointees.

3. Sabotage, Bureaucratic Inertia & Court Battles


  • ANC/EFF walkouts and motion-of-no-confidence chaos constantly paralyzed council meetings.
  • The ANC-aligned SAMWU union regularly protested, leading to violent disruptions.
  • DA administrations faced legal action, including the provincial takeover in 2020, later declared unconstitutional.

4. COVID-19 (2020–2021)


  • Revenue collection plummeted; service delivery slowed.
  • Emergency responses became the priority, putting reform plans on hold.

5. Coalition Instability


  • Post-2021, the DA leads a coalition with:
    • ActionSA, FF+, ACDP, COPE, IFP
    • Conflicting ideologies and local interests
  • Infighting and power struggles (e.g., speaker elections, mayoral disputes) have damaged trust and efficiency.



📊 What Progress Has Been Made?​


Despite chaos, the DA-led government has:


  • Ended some irregular contracts.
  • Improved audit outcomes in certain years.
  • Tried to professionalize the administration.
  • Pushed forward infrastructure upgrades in some areas, though underfunded.
  • Tried to digitize billing, though with mixed success.

But these are not headline-grabbing wins, and they don’t undo two decades of entrenched dysfunction overnight.




🧠 Final Verdict​


Expectation: No, it's not realistic to expect a full turnaround in 4 years—especially without a majority and in a deeply dysfunctional system.
However: Voters are understandably frustrated. Visible service delivery and communication are crucial, and the DA must better communicate the scale of the mess and what progress has been made, or they’ll lose the political narrative.
 
Not a single service that the people can see, touch or feel :ROFL:

Emfuleni municipality has basically collapsed. Thanks, ANC, for uniting black, white, brown, purple, orange and green, against your corruption and ineptitude. (of course, they will still vote for you, don;t worry 😂 )

Ons is gatvol!
Emfuleni is one of the few places in GP where the DA could get a plurality next year.
 
What is this gibberish? You are due for a meditation retreat soon.

All you can talk about is DA this, DA that. Be a man and answer for the ANC who is milking JHB blind.
The argument makes no sense either. DA can only run CPT because of "milking people"?

The same place DA has been running with, note: concurrent majorities, since 2011? Unlike in TSH and JHB, where they failed because "they didn't have money to milk"?

I said this long ago, the frogs in the ANC river are starting to feel the heat post-2024, but instead of jumping out, they double down. Something something, we will not be bullied...
 
There's a difference. They were effectively running minority governments at EFF gunpoint. It was bound to fail at some point.

But this has been told to you ad nauseam...

Full uninterrupted 8 years? Where?

2016 - 2020 = DA minority governments held hostage by EFF
2020 - 2021 = Illegal ANC provincial administration
2021 - 2024 = DA majority coalition
2024 - now = ANC coalition with ASA puppet mayor

The only time you could say DA had a stable chance was 2021 - 2024. So they had a proper chance to try and completely reverse 18 years of ANC misrule within 3 - 4 years?
You are fighting a losing battle. He thinks this is his trump card so will play it ad nauseum. You need to get into the mind of a troll to defeat them.
 
The argument makes no sense either. DA can only run CPT because of "milking people"?

The same place DA has been running with, note: concurrent majorities, since 2011? Unlike in TSH and JHB, where they failed because "they didn't have money to milk"?

I said this long ago, the frogs in the ANC river are starting to feel the heat post-2024, but instead of jumping out, they double down. Something something, we will not be bullied...
Go ahead and tell me why they failed in Tshwane, I am always open to different opinions.

Or do you still insist they didn't fail?
 
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It's not exactly the most credible poll, but that even ST readers are saying Gogo should do it speaks volumes.
 
Go ahead and tell me why they failed in Tshwane, I am always open to different opinions.

Or do you still insist they didn't fail?
How can you fail if you don't have the time or stability needed to make a turnaround? The DA only had 4 years of that.

Btw, did the ANC fail in JHB, ETH, EKH, NMB, BUF, MAN, Emfuleni, uMngeni, Polokwane, North West, Kimberley, Upington, etc?
 
How can you fail if you don't have the time or stability needed to make a turnaround? The DA only had 4 years of that.

Btw, did the ANC fail in JHB, ETH, EKH, NMB, BUF, MAN, Emfuleni, uMngeni, Polokwane, North West, Kimberley, Upington, etc?
The anc never fails.. They're implementing transformation, it's a process.

2 weeks man, just 2 weeks and you'll see.
 
How can you fail if you don't have the time or stability needed to make a turnaround? The DA only had 4 years of that.

Btw, did the ANC fail in JHB, ETH, EKH, NMB, BUF, MAN, Emfuleni, uMngeni, Polokwane, North West, Kimberley, Upington, etc?
DA bad mkay = Champ's coping mechanism. He would rather let ANC shaft more VAT and no job prospects into SA than to admit DA was on the right side.
 
DA bad mkay = Champ's coping mechanism. He would rather let ANC shaft more VAT and no job prospects into SA than to admit DA was on the right side.
Something something racist right wingers... #whitevictimhood...

The average cadre after siphoning R110935472987562 from the state and then successfully blaming Apartheid:
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DA bad mkay = Champ's coping mechanism. He would rather let ANC shaft more VAT and no job prospects into SA than to admit DA was on the right side.
He doesn't love his own party, he just hates everyone else's. It's a massive cope. Understandable considering the ANC is way beyond defending when it comes to the entire country. A scope too big for him. Stick to Tshwane and some roads.
 
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