SA Politics Thread Part 12

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Solarion said:
You've just described the ANC. Look harder.

Who decided a sanctioned Russian warship enter our ports? Who decided to sell off large chunks of the country to foreign corrupt Gupta cronies? Who decided to climb into bed with the Fascist, global pariah Iran? A tiny minority of the population did.

Are we free to steer the country in our preferred direction? The country's gdp is in negative growth and the economy shrinking. I didn't do that. The 100 cronies who made 1.5 Trillion rand disappear, did that. Same cronies that kept Jacob Zuma in power by voting in favor for him twice.

All we did in 1994 was swop one repulsive regime for another.
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You can still vote for your party that would do things differently to all that you know? Something that we black people could not do with your apartheid.
 
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TheChamp said:
Yes, I am very certain comparing an environment where you are free to steer the country in your preferred direction by being able to vote is comparable to apartheid where some people were forced to live with whatever a tiny minority of the population decides on.
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No, no. Support your country no matter what or go.

That's what the stance has been recently, right? Don't question the ANC or else you're a right-wing racist traitor and therefore you should leave?

So, seeing as that's fine, black, coloured, indian people should've simply left en masse, seeing as they largely opposed the government of the day, which was the Apartheid regime?
 
TheChamp said:
You can still vote for your party that would do things differently to all that you know? Something that we black people could not do with your apartheid.
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The days of riding on the fumes of Apartheid are finished Champ. Your ANC have had 31 years to correct the injustices of the past and yet all they've done is perpetuate more pain and economic disparity upon the black population of SA.

For a party that has for years professed to care about "our people" it is still unclear who their people really are. The 100 connected cadres who have bled this country dry while the population suffer, could arguably be this "our people" we all hear about.

Marxist deology and party allegiance may feel good and give a sense of comraderie, however, the loss of majority and the ever dwindling ANC support is concrete proof that people want a functioning country and effective governance, not a cold war dinosaur who promises dinner plates full of struggle pamphlets.
 
Solarion said:
The days of riding on the fumes of Apartheid are finished Champ. Your ANC have had 31 years to correct the injustices of the past and yet all they've done is perpetuate more pain and economic disparity upon the black population of SA.

For a party that has for years professed to care about "our people" it is still unclear who their people really are. The 100 connected cadres who have bled this country dry while the population suffer, could arguably be this "our people" we all hear about.

Marxist deology and party allegiance may feel good and give a sense of comraderie, however, the loss of majority and the ever dwindling ANC support is concrete proof that people want a functioning country and effective governance, not a cold war dinosaur who promises dinner plates full of struggle pamphlets.
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But after all that mouthful, you still have an option of voting for your own party that would do things your own way, a luxury Our People did not have, do you realise that?
 
TheChamp said:
But after all that mouthful, you still have an option of voting for your own party that would do things your own way, a luxury Our People did not have, do you realise that?
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Which the majority of white south africans voted for you to have ....
And all you did with it was to put more racism in place, destroy a country and enable a small handfull of black people to an incredible looting spree
 
TheChamp said:
But after all that mouthful, you still have an option of voting for your own party that would do things your own way, a luxury Our People did not have, do you realise that?
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The ANC did not give you the option to vote and they did not remove any obstacles to you voting. They simply got voted in. The old administration fell away and a new constitution was adopted.

Take an A4 page and write down everything the ANC has actually done for you. Exclude things the ANC was given or inherited, but actual physical, tangible things they have done for you and how they have improved your life.
 
Solarion said:
The ANC did not give you the option to vote and they did not remove any obstacles to you voting. They simply got voted in. The old administration fell away and a new constitution was adopted.

Take an A4 page and write down everything the ANC has actually done for you. Exclude things the ANC was given or inherited, but actual physical, tangible things they have done for you and how they have improved your life.
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The old administration fell away? Are you sure they were not voted out as soon as our people had a chance to vote?
 
TheChamp said:
As I always say, the right wingers are a dying minority.
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Meanwhile you guys seem to breed like rabbits
But yes you are correct
Whites in RSA are decreasing, 5.6 mil in 1994 to an estimated 4.5mil in 2026.
Meanwhile balcks have gone from about 30 million in 1994 to over 50 million in 2026

Why should I care about the 20 million ( of which probably 4 or 5 million are immigrants ) that came after 1994. They are your failure, not mine.
 
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Somone Else Again said:
Meanwhile you guys seem to breed like rabbits
But yes you are correct
Whites in RSA are decreasing 5.6 mil in 1994 to an estimated 4.5mil in 2026.
Meanwhile balcks have gone from about 30 million in 1994 to over 50 million in 2026

Why should I care about the 20 million ( of which probably 4 or 5 million are immigrants ) that came after 1994. They are your failure, not mine.
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I honestly have no beef with whites decreasing 5.6 mil, whatever that means, well done to them.
 
TheChamp said:
The old administration fell away? Are you sure they were not voted out as soon as our people had a chance to vote?
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The ANC were not the government in 1994 before the vote. The people voted, not the ANC. The people brought about the change, not the ANC. The ANC owe you for everything they have, not the other way around. And how have they repayed you Champ? How have the ANC repayed "Your People" for this great debt of gratitude?
 
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