SA Politics Thread Part 12

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TheChamp said:
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So lets run some numbers with 7 subjects

88% got a pass , where a pass means that if you average subjects they knew 30% of the work (40+40+40+30+30+30)/7. so 12% are sub 30%ers
46% got a bachelor pass, so they knew of 42.8% the work (40+50+50+50+50+30+30)/7

It means that there was a dropoff of 42% of people who could get 30% but not 42.8%
I wonder what the dropoff would be when you take the differences of average required for university compared to 42.8%

The problem is that because of the low bar of entry we would have a large amount toytoying for nsfas and other tax funded money to study further where they would have to up their average pass mark considerably just to pass

Then you have the other barriers like core maths or science, which most of the kids did not take
What would the pass %'s be like if core maths and science was mandatory for everyone ?

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Somone Else Again said:
So lets run some numbers with 7 subjects

88% got a pass , where a pass means that if you average subjects they knew 30% of the work (40+40+40+30+30+30)/7. so 12% are sub 30%ers
46% got a bachelor pass, so they knew of 42.8% the work (40+50+50+50+50+30+30)/7

It means that there was a dropoff of 42% of people who could get 30% but not 42.8%
I wonder what the dropoff would be when you take the differences of average required for university compared to 42.8%

The problem is that because of the low bar of entry we would have a large amount toytoying for nsfas and other tax funded money to study further where they would have to up their average pass mark considerably just to pass

Then you have the other barriers like core maths or science, which most of the kids did not take
What would the pass %'s be like if core maths and science was mandatory for everyone ?

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On the radio this morning they mentioned only like 35% of matric's done math at any grade and of them 65% passed.
So less than 25% of all school leavers. This is worrying.
 
GrootVoet said:
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So 43%

2) Never said 30% - said below 40%. - I was wrong, see above - its actually below 43%.
3) Totally agree not enough for STEM careers but we where talking about university so a lot of these Mickey Mouse degrees like pollical science etc.
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I feel objectively, it's good people are raising issues pertaining our education but harping on about this "30% pass mark" isn't it. The person has already fallen off the radar of universities whether it's deemed a pass or not.

Someone determined to make a mark in the world would do something about it. There are several options at various costs. There are far more important issues than percentages.
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4) I do not personally know these dumb people, but trust me they exist, we see them each year toi-toi-ing and burning things at the uni's
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They exist. I don't deny that. But some of them aren't even dumb. Some are victims of their own environments or circumstances.

To share an anecdote, I went to primary school with children from a village not too far from ours by car. It was a small village; a little bigger than what the British call a hamlet. The closest village to them had a school but there was a stream and marsh between them, which made going to school difficult for them. So they walked several kms, perhaps 30 or more, to and fro our village. Their daily routine: get livestock out to the fields before beginning the arduous journey to school. It was particularly brutal in winter and during rainy seasons. The much younger ones always looked exhausted and did terribly in class.

It's a decent size villave now with a primary school and a connecting road.
 
GrootVoet said:
On the radio this morning they mentioned only like 35% of matric's done math at any grade and of them 65% passed.
So less than 25% of all school leavers. This is worrying.
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Afaik, maths is compulsory up to Gr10. No?
 
www.businessday.co.za

US House approves Agoa extension, sends bill to Senate

The US House of Representatives passed a bill on Monday that would renew Washington’s preferential trade programme for some African countries through to 2028.
www.businessday.co.za www.businessday.co.za

Pity it doesn't say whether SA is currently included or excluded.

The US House of Representatives passed a bill on Monday that would renew Washington’s preferential trade programme for some African countries through to 2028.

The House approved the extension for the African Growth and Opportunity Act (Agoa), first enacted in 2000 to provide duty-free access to the US market for eligible sub-Saharan countries and products, by a vote of 340 to 54, the House press gallery said in a posting on the social media website X.

The bill will next go to the Senate.
 
GrootVoet said:
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So 43%

2) Never said 30% - said below 40%. - I was wrong, see above - its actually below 43%.
3) Totally agree not enough for STEM careers but we where talking about university so a lot of these Mickey Mouse degrees like pollical science etc.
4) I do not personally know these dumb people, but trust me they exist, we see them each year toi-toi-ing and burning things at the uni's
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Maybe you are also not aware of entry requirements for a degree in political science? You actually need to get over 60% in Maths at Wits, it differs between universities but the notion that it's a mickey mouse degree that anyone can enroll on or those who do are dumb is not based on fact.

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