Salaries

Chris said:
Yeah I read a couple of weeks ago that a starting salary for a chemical engineer is 293k. No jokes! :eek: That's crazy, but I suppose most engineers spend double the time at university than most other people. Although of course once you finish articles, your salary does go up a notch or two.
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I studied electrical, and didnt start that high. :rolleyes:

I suppose you can only compare when they have finished their articles...
Watch this space :D
 
Chris said:
Yeah I read a couple of weeks ago that a starting salary for a chemical engineer is 293k. No jokes! :eek: That's crazy, but I suppose most engineers spend double the time at university than most other people. Although of course once you finish articles, your salary does go up a notch or two.
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Uhm if he took that long to finish he won't get a job lol. And e.g. was looking at the bsc(eng) elec salaries for grads and its anything from 15-18k or 18-24k pending company size etc but obviously the higher bracket with tighter results. up from 10-13, 13-17k ranges back in 2000ish(university use to give reports on salaries back then). So yah.. but then you must also remember engineer salaries have a steep incline after 2-5yrs experience.

Anyway.. i'd say just take whatever you can get that is 'survivable' for a yr or two as post experience, you will be in a better position to get something better. So workout your living expenses(don't go too wild here) and then if its over that amount be happy that you got your foot in the door and on your way. After all getting where you want to be takes time and you need the experience.
 
Yep, starts around R7-8k, moves up to around R15k after board 1 or 2 depending on the firm. Once you finish articles & pass both boards minimum salary of R35k
 
poffle said:
Yep, starts around R7-8k, moves up to around R15k after board 1 or 2 depending on the firm. Once you finish articles & pass both boards minimum salary of R35k
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Yip.

My sussie did her articles, now she commands her salary!
:eek:
:(

Wish us IT folk would receive the same.... gratuity.
:D
 
krycor said:
Uhm if he took that long to finish he won't get a job lol. And e.g. was looking at the bsc(eng) elec salaries for grads and its anything from 15-18k or 18-24k pending company size etc but obviously the higher bracket with tighter results. up from 10-13, 13-17k ranges back in 2000ish(university use to give reports on salaries back then). So yah.. but then you must also remember engineer salaries have a steep incline after 2-5yrs experience.
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What meant by 'spending double the time than most other students' was that engineers have practicals - mostly 4 times a week, on top of their lectures. And then they have to deal with the difficulty of their work :erm:...it's not like a BSc where the higher the year, the fewer subjects you do :p

Not sure what he was looking at...it was in the Cape Times Career section that comes out on Mondays.
 
I started out as an articled clerk. The mind-sapping job got to me. Going from one client to the next auditing them was the most boring thing. Then I looked at the CA's I was auditing and asked myself if I really want to be like that ?

Eventually took a pay cut and went into programming. Best thing I ever do. Work with human beings.
 
zippy said:
I started out as an articled clerk. The mind-sapping job got to me. Going from one client to the next auditing them was the most boring thing. Then I looked at the CA's I was auditing and asked myself if I really want to be like that ?

Eventually took a pay cut and went into programming. Best thing I ever do. Work with human beings.
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seriously...is it that bad?? they look like they have fun.....
 
*SynergyX* said:
seriously...is it that bad?? they look like they have fun.....
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zippy
Eventually took a pay cut and went into programming. Best thing I ever do. Work with human beings.
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This is the best route for kick-ass financial software (rather than an IT dweeb who knows nothing about the subject). I would venture that zippy specialises in financial-type software – he/she knows the subject, knows the problems and where software would make the job easier. They straddle both worlds. I wot of someone who qualified as an astronomer and only writes astronomy software. He is intimately acquainted with the astronomy world so his software is ground-breaking.
 
RustyPrincess said:
I studied electrical, and didnt start that high. :rolleyes:

I suppose you can only compare when they have finished their articles...
Watch this space :D
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Same.

Finished my BTech in Electrical a while back. Still earning Slummies rates though. :erm:

At least I get to see places and not want to commit sepuku at the office like most accountants & lawyers. :D
 
Yah looks like i will be a developer for a yr which is kinda funny since i don't actually like programming all the time lol. gah.. sometimes u just got to do things to survive.. hopefully after a yr i can go back and study meng or get a job i want. (gonna complete cisco courses while working)
 
I haven't read thru the thread yet but I've had two job offers as a trainee accountant straight out of Matric. A small firm offered around R4000 a month, and a medium sized firm offered around R4500 plus a bursary. I suppose if you're coming out of university you would earn a lot more though.
 
Palimino said:
zippy


This is the best route for kick-ass financial software (rather than an IT dweeb who knows nothing about the subject). I would venture that zippy specialises in financial-type software – he/she knows the subject, knows the problems and where software would make the job easier. They straddle both worlds. I wot of someone who qualified as an astronomer and only writes astronomy software. He is intimately acquainted with the astronomy world so his software is ground-breaking.
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Im not doing accounting software, but certainly have the BCOMPT background and auditing has helped in being able to drag requriements out of clients. I can understand the "lingo".

Having the degree also got me my visa to the UK, and I got a job pretty quickly at a top IT consultancy, so I guess you cant be too sorry about your crappy choices :D

PS: I edited out what I really think of the accountants. I'll give you a clue though. Enron. :D
 
I did auditing between 1970 to 1975.I did not qualify but that's not the point.Very dismal salary and today I regret it.Although it gave me a phenomenal background in accounting and financial matters to the extent I tell the accountant what to do I am so glad that I am out of accountancy.It must be the most boring job I have ever done.Forensic accounting does interest me and due to the number of staff we employ I have to do.
 
zippy said:
Im not doing accounting software, but certainly have the BCOMPT background and auditing has helped in being able to drag requriements out of clients. I can understand the "lingo".
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IT dweeb is perhaps harsh. I was once such an entity. It relates to being 1 step removed from the area of expertise. At one stage I derived the expertise from Subject Matter Experts (SME’s) to build Expert Systems (a form of AI). It’s a speciality called ‘Knowledge Engineering’ (I attended courses). It was tricky and an SME who could also program was far superior.
 
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