Same question as start asking myself around this time.

AstroTurf said:
It is for a wide variety of things but basically they leave a dirty aftertaste in my mouth.
Experiences last time I communicated with them, promises broken (employees at work they promised to visit after I spent lots of energy and time convincing people to vote for them as an example) and many other little niggles in the last 4 odd years.
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Surely you can separate your unpleasant experience from the need to attain improved governance on the whole?

I've also had to deal with them, more on a business level, and it wasn't really a pleasant experience. That doesn't change the fact that they present the best opportunity we have of eroding the ANC's chokehold on our governments and legislatures.
 
OrbitalDawn said:
Surely you can separate your unpleasant experience from the need to attain improved governance on the whole?

I've also had to deal with them, more on a business level, and it wasn't really a pleasant experience. That doesn't change the fact that they present the best opportunity we have of eroding the ANC's chokehold on our governments and legislatures.
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I know that, I just feel that I have the opportunity to vote with my head as well as my heart for a change (they have gained enough support not to simply dwindle).
 
I can't understand people who think South Africa would be better served by a more even split between the DA and the ANC. South Africa would be better served with multiple parties taking more of the vote.

Voting for the DA as a vote against the ANC is ridiculous.
 
AstroTurf said:
I agree with you completely, I am also quite drawn to Agang's policies at present but have not been paying particular interest to them till recently, they are also still to new for dirty laundry to have been aired. Certainly not a final choice but right on top of my list right now.
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Garyvdh said:
The standing at the back dressed stupidly and looking stupid party.
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:/
 
AstroTurf said:
I know that, I just feel that I have the opportunity to vote with my head as well as my heart for a change (they have gained enough support not to simply dwindle).
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But who else, honestly? (I know that's why you made the thread in the first place). :p

AgangSA are making some of the right noises, but I haven't seen realistic policy direction or plans of action from them. Just always remember, you're not very likely to find a party that you agree with wholesale. It's about finding one that fits best, and that can actually perform. There's always gonna be two issues at play, namely policy and delivery. If you disagree on policy, not much you can do about it, but delivery is something that you can support even if you're not totally on board with policy. :)

icyrus said:
I can't understand people who think South Africa would be better served by a more even split between the DA and the ANC. South Africa would be better served with multiple parties taking more of the vote.

Voting for the DA as a vote against the ANC is ridiculous.
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Well, in many ways that's what our political landscape has become. The ANC isn't a party that's merely just slightly gone off the right path and needs to be corrected, imo.

I feel the DA has done enough in the WC to warrant an opportunity at proving themselves elsewhere as well. Their work as opposition in Parliament has also been quite useful (their BEE bill bungle notwithstanding).

I happen to find many of their policies fairly decent as well. Tim Harris is a very smart and capable person, with a lot of great ideas.

And multiple parties just for the sake of it seems silly to me. So we have more ACDPs, EFFs, or IFPs in Parliament? How will that help, especially if I disagree with them a lot more than the DA? So we're using them to erode the ANC anyway, which comes back to voting for anyone but the ANC as a vote against the ANC.
 
ToxicBunny said:
I think given the way our political landscape is heading...

Any vote for a party other than the ANC,their coathangers or the EFF will be a vote for progress.

I see coalitions forming all over the place with parties other than the ANC... so the DA, COPE, Agang etc will team up where it makes sense and gives them enough firepower to beat the ANC back.
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+1 The 'majority' needs to be broken
 
The next question is do you vote for the same party on the government and municipal level.
Would it make sense to vote for the DA in government and someone less nanny like for the municipal level?
 
I'm with the tactile monkey - the DA is the only real choice if you are voting against the ANC. Before we can begin to consider giving smaller parties our votes, the ANC's stranglehold on this country's throat must be broken - and a squabbling coalition of small parties will never achieve that. We need a single, united opposition party, and the DA (for better or worse) is that opposition. Once the DA has made significant inroads - perhaps taken another couple of provinces from the ANC - then we can start voting for the parties that agree with our personal views.

No, this is not how democracy is supposed to work, but South Africa is currently a democracy in name only. In reality it's a one-party state, and the only way to truly bring democracy is to weaken that one party.

I'm reminded of the 2004 Olympic slogan, "If Cape Town wins, we all win". Except in this case, it's "If the ANC loses, South Africa stands a chance".
 
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