Samsung Galaxy S5

[AstroTurf]

In specs. Loses in actual performance tests. Testiment to a poor operating system or an inability to get the most out of the hardware ?

I don't have an iphone but I will be getting the 6 come next upgrade. The screen size was all that was holding me back. I expect many, many people will be following this trend.

I made a seperate thread, go explain it there, show the performance tests you speak of as well

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

I made a seperate thread, go explain it there, show the performance tests you speak of as well

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-6-benchmark-results,news-19584.html



The iphone 6 does on paper have far inferior specs and yet beats the s5 on most tests. Let's stop to consider the very concept of "fanboy" considering how poorly that reflects on the "tech" abilities of Samsung.

In technological terms isn't the ability to get the most out of hardware and software something to envy ? Especially when your champion company crams its devices full of far higher ended specs and can't achieve the same results?

 

[AstroTurf]

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-6-benchmark-results,news-19584.html



The iphone 6 does on paper have far inferior specs and yet beats the s5 on most tests. Let's stop to consider the very concept of "fanboy" considering how embaressing that is for Samsung.

Thought I would verify that.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S5_ShootOut_1.htm
S5 up to 698 nits anyway, should I trust anything else in your article?

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

Thought I would verify that.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S5_ShootOut_1.htm
S5 up to 698 nits anyway, should I trust anything else in your article?

I didn't write the article and I can't see a reason to fact check some guys presentation about phone performance. I couldn't imagine anyone could care enough about a phone than to create bogus stats one way or the other. You do seem quite emotionally invested in all of this on the other hand...

 

[AstroTurf]

I didn't write the article and I can't see a reason to fact check some guys presentation about phone performance. I couldn't imagine anyone could care enough about a phone than to create bogus stats one way or the other. You do seem quite emotionally invested in all of this on the other hand...

You brought it up, I know from my own research the number was extremely low so just verified it. Trying to detract from the conversation by attempting to solicit an emotional response is so typical of your behavior on this site it's predictable to the point that I was expecting it

 

[faniebraai]

I didn't write the article and I can't see a reason to fact check some guys presentation about phone performance. I couldn't imagine anyone could care enough about a phone than to create bogus stats one way or the other. You do seem quite emotionally invested in all of this on the other hand...

Think again. Not that I'm saying it was rigged, I'm just saying some weird choices were made. For example, use the Chrome browser? Why not use the same on the apple? Why not use the built in browser?

the Nova 3 test is a stupid test imo in any case. Apps by third parties written for two OS are written by different teams. Using Nova 3 doesn't mean anything, because it could mean that the Android team didn't concentrate so much on performance a the apple team.

Don't just take 1 article, take a plenty, and then compare.

 

[faniebraai]

You brought it up, I know from my own research the number was extremely low so just verified it. Trying to detract from the conversation by attempting to solicit an emotional response is so typical of your behavior on this site it's predictable to the point that I was expecting it

This isn't typical of just MCD, but also any other apple fan when faced with facts. It's actually a very human response. When busy losing an argument about facts, revert to emotion and name calling. No name calling just yet... Anyways, if he's been drinking the cool-aid, so be it. He'll soon realize what he's given up.

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

Think again. Not that I'm saying it was rigged, I'm just saying some weird choices were made. For example, use the Chrome browser? Why not use the same on the apple? Why not use the built in browser?

the Nova 3 test is a stupid test imo in any case. Apps by third parties written for two OS are written by different teams. Using Nova 3 doesn't mean anything, because it could mean that the Android team didn't concentrate so much on performance a the apple team.

Don't just take 1 article, take a plenty, and then compare.

When the Iphone 6 was released I was entirely SHOCKED at the specs that were announced. I , like many people thought they were extremely poor specs. Then I read the performance reviews and rave reviews in general and I became curious as to what was going on.

I have always been very impresssed with how smooth iphones perform compared to even top end android devices and told myself that if they release an iphone with a decent sized screen I would want one. So I was anticipating the iphone 6 eagerly. So when I saw the poor specs it lead me down the path of thinking about how they could achieve the results with the inferior specs. And I concluded they are the smarter tech company. I don't think that is an unfair assesment of the situation.

 

[faniebraai]

When the Iphone 6 was released I was entirely SHOCKED at the specs that were announced. I , like many people thought they were extremely poor specs. Then I read the performance reviews and rave reviews in general and I became curious as to what was going on.

I have always been very impresssed with how smooth iphones perform compared to even top end android devices and told myself that if they release an iphone with a decent sized screen I would want one. So I was anticipating the iphone 6 eagerly. So when I saw the poor specs it lead me down the path of thinking about how they could achieve the results with the inferior specs. And I concluded they are the smarter tech company. I don't think that is an unfair assesment of the situation.

I have to agree with the smoothness of the apple devices. But that alone is not enough to sway me to them. Their 'locked down' approach is just not very becoming... it actually pushes me away. Until apple changes that, I'll never go back.

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

I have to agree with the smoothness of the apple devices. But that alone is not enough to sway me to them. Their 'locked down' approach is just not very becoming... it actually pushes me away. Until apple changes that, I'll never go back.

That's fair enough. But I don't think that's relevant in a discussion regarding the relative hardware and performance. The Samsung sycophants needs to give credit where it is due. Apple are doing more performance wise with a lot less hardware. And for their specs Samsung devices are relatively "dumb". In that sense apple are the clear winner as a tech company and anyone with an appreciation for tech wouldn't begrudge them that.

 

[AstroTurf]

Not sure what you mean by dumb. What I see here though is budget cuts on the hardware in favour of closed software with no definitive advantage over the competition.

 

[faniebraai]

That's fair enough. But I don't think that's relevant in a discussion regarding the relative hardware and performance. The Samsung sycophants needs to give credit where it is due. Apple are doing more performance wise with a lot less hardware. And for their specs Samsung devices are relatively "dumb". In that sense apple are the clear winner as a tech company.

Don't understand you saying "Samsung devices are relatively 'dumb'".

Sure apple is doing a lot with less specs, why is that? Well, if you are in control of your software and hardware departments its much much easier to get something that is 'built' of it. Not as easy with Android for Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony, etc etc but brings with it so much more in terms of benefits of working together and being interoperable.

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

Don't understand you saying "Samsung devices are relatively 'dumb'".

Sure apple is doing a lot with less specs, why is that? Well, if you are in control of your software and hardware departments its much much easier to get something that is 'built' of it. Not as easy with Android for Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony, etc etc but brings with it so much more in terms of benefits of working together and being interoperable.

Even more respect to apple for producing their own operating system.

I think people are either ignorant to or have forgotten how much apple innovated with the iphone. It would serve them well to go youtube the announcement of the first iphone and just see how much of their android operating system owes everything to the first iphone.

Android is a great operating system and backed by a great tech company in google. But companies like Samsung are not great tech companies. They can build on and copy the innovation of others but certainly as a true lover of technology and innovation you don't want to throw your chips in behind a generic producer like Samsung.

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

Not sure what you mean by dumb. What I see here though is budget cuts on the hardware in favour of closed software with no definitive advantage over the competition.

It's a lot cheaper and easier to shove your plastic device full of cheap made in China " high end specs "(that you didn't innovate in the first place) than to actually engineer from the ground up.

In fact its so cheap that when asking top dollar for it, you dont need to even worry if you have to replace every second one every few months.

 

[faniebraai]

Even more respect to apple for producing their own operating system.

I think people are either ignorant to or have forgotten how much apple innovated with the iphone. It would serve them well to go youtube the announcement of the first iphone and just see how much of their android operating system owes everything to the first iphone.

Android is a great operating system and backed by a great tech company in google. But companies like Samsung are not great tech companies. They can build on and copy the innovation of others but certainly as a true lover of technology and innovation you don't want to throw your chips in behind a generic producer like Samsung.

So you still don't explain the 'dumb' comment.

The two are different when it comes to their intended business model. In this day and age working together to achieve an objective makes for faster innovation with quicker iteration. iPhone was the most innovating thing when it came out, I have to agree. But they are now falling behind, and they are trying to play catch up. And if you are honest you will know this and realize they are falling more and more behind with every iteration of their iDevice.

And let's just be clear. I am not a Samsung lover. I love Android, and the concept of openess and sharing. Even so that I'm considering the next Nexus device. I have no loyalty to Samsung themselves, they just happen to have the best device when I was upgrading every time. For example, this time I'll be getting the Note 4. Show me another device that comes close to what you can do with the Note 4. After that I'll probably get the Nexus 6/X. Beauty with Android and the OEM's that support it, is that with all the iterations going on all the time, when I upgrade every 6 months, I have plenty to choose from. Apply users now have an incredible 2 devices. Well fscking done.

 

[AstroTurf]

It's a lot cheaper and easier to shove your plastic device full of cheap made in China " high end specs "(that you didn't innovate in the first place) than to actually engineer from the ground up.

So are you comparing ios to Symbian now? You realize that Samsung made and makes lots of the parts in iPhones right?

 

[faniebraai]

It's a lot cheaper and easier to shove your plastic device full of cheap made in China " high end specs "(that you didn't innovate in the first place) than to actually engineer from the ground up.

In fact its so cheap that when asking top dollar for it, you dont need to even worry if you have to replace every second one every few months.

You mean like the S PEN? You mean like their best in market Super AMOLED screens? Don't forget that Apple used Samsung screens in the past, and even some are still using it today.

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

So are you comparing ios to Symbian now? You realize that Samsung made and makes lots of the parts in iPhones right?

Yes, Samsung are very good at copying and then reproducing the innovations of others. But as demonstated by their own efforts, not worth a fuss at coming up with their own.

It doesn't cost much to break down others devices and then replicate it compared to a whole team of people who break the actual ground.

There are plenty of great cover bands in the world. They are seldom hounded for autographs from people who appreciate the creative process of writing music.

 

[AstroTurf]

Yes, Samsung are very good at copying and then reproducing the innovations of others. But as demonstated by their own efforts, not worth a fuss at coming up with their own.

That explains the old generation screen design, NFC and a the rest in the iPhone 6 perfectly

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

You mean like the S PEN? You mean like their best in market Super AMOLED screens? Don't forget that Apple used Samsung screens in the past, and even some are still using it today.

Amoled technology was an American innovation as far as I know. What about the S pen is innovative ?