Samsung HDD not that great either...

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Got a 1.5TB Samsung Green drive and it's failing.

Noticed today that all the files after "M" in my MAME folder vanished. SMART warns of Current Pending Sector Count.

Will have to see if direct I/O remaps the sectors as a cache write won't do jack. Think it's still within warranty so it might just get RMA'd.

Busy moving data to 2x 500GB & 1x 250GB drives, also a opportunity to do some cleanup!
 
From my point of view, 'tis the season for hard drives to fail... My 177 day-old Seagate (7200.12 500GB) failed just last week. Of course I hit the interwebz to get as much information as possible, but it didn't really help! All I could do was to go "eeny meeny miny moe" and I ended up buying a Western Digital, but who knows?

I still have faith in Samsung, though, but I'm not so sure about Seagate any more...
 
This aint good, i just brought 2x2TB samsungs last week :(

One thing that i can say though is i have 4 x 1TB hitachi drives that are proving very strong this far into there life :)
 
I'm sorry, but after experiencing the Samsung drive my laptop came with, and a few of their optical drives, I will stay away. Samsung should really stick to RAM, flash memory and monitors.

Freaksta said:
One thing that i can say though is i have 4 x 1TB hitachi drives that are proving very strong this far into there life :)
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+1 on Hitachi. Have a 80GB Hitachi that's still going strong.
 
stats wise the old drive lasted a lot better, it's just cause of the # of platters, density and speed they spin at these days. the tolerances for failure are much worse compared to the old buggers

These days tbh none of the hdd manufacturers are that great. For me tho i've had way more seagates fail in the course of dealing than samsungs. I tend to avoid the biggest drives tho and where its important data, RAID 5+ it.
 
All the new HDD are faulty, but out of Seagate, Western Digital and Samsung, Samsung def is the better choice. They are relatively reliable and perform very well.

Havn't heard much Hitachi so can't comment about them.
 
ponder said:
Noticed today that all the files after "M" in my MAME folder vanished. SMART warns of Current Pending Sector Count.
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SMART may be warning of bad sector count but the only way you can lose a folder is if bad sectors appeared in the file allocation table area AND that area is completely unreadable and was relocated. Windows would also detect and report a problem with the allocation table if it were the case. And even if that is the case the data is still actually on the disk and recoverable (because the allocation table was damaged and not the area containing the data).

The allocation table keeps track of where everything on the HD is and bad sectors or not it'll still show up there. The only difference being that if your hard-drive is failing you'll get errors when attempting to copy/read that data.

More likely explanation is that data was deleted somehow or by someone.
 
Western Digital make the nest drives at the moment. Haven't had one fail in about 5 years but have had a few Samsungs/Seagate/Hitachis fail.
 
I have had 2 Seagate 1tb drives fail this year, will get a 2tb WD or Samsung next :)
Oldest working drive i have is a 1.6GB WD, not in daily use though but it still works :D
 
IBM sold their hard drive business to Hitachi in 2002, so Hitachi drives are basically IBM drives rebranded. Love it & have 2 X 1TB Hitachis humming in my Coolermaster case, at a temperature of 28 deg. Its a far cry from the Seagates, that likes to get hot very quickly.

Western Digital will always be my favorite HDD. Miss my Raptor. *sniff*
 
Speaking of samsung hdd's dying, what's the best place to RMA a sammy hdd? I know Ingram Micro use to do it but not anymore. I have a 750gb sammy under warranty just sitting around and don't know what to do with it
 
Rectron will do it for a fee, but if u have a mate that has accounts with the places just phone around and ask them to search for the barcode and once u find the palce that it came from book it in. I did this with a 1.5TB my mate said i could have :)

At the moment im using
4 x 1TB hitachi ( they are running awsomely)
1 x 1TB samy (showing some bad sectors as of the otherday)
1 x 1.5TB seag (had to have it swopped out because my friend dropped it)
2 x 2TB samy (only got them like last week so we'll see)
 
Gnome said:
SMART may be warning of bad sector count but the only way you can lose a folder is if bad sectors appeared in the file allocation table area AND that area is completely unreadable and was relocated. Windows would also detect and report a problem with the allocation table if it were the case. And even if that is the case the data is still actually on the disk and recoverable (because the allocation table was damaged and not the area containing the data).

The allocation table keeps track of where everything on the HD is and bad sectors or not it'll still show up there. The only difference being that if your hard-drive is failing you'll get errors when attempting to copy/read that data.

More likely explanation is that data was deleted somehow or by someone.
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Who said I was using windows?

Anyway, the drive looks like it's on its way out. CRC errors occur trying to copy some files which is generally not a good sign. Once I have most of the data off I will do a scan+remap with MHDD and see what gives.
 
Take2 rejected my "returns request" today. According to their suppliers, there is nothing wrong with my hard drive (Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB ST3500418AS). The hard drive itself (S.M.A.R.T.) doesn't agree, though!

First, it reported 67 reallocated sectors and the following day 72. Of course it still works, but for how long? I just hope it fails "properly" before the so-called 3 year warranty expires.
 
ponder said:
Who said I was using windows?
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Ah but the other file system should be similar...

ponder said:
Anyway, the drive looks like it's on its way out. CRC errors occur trying to copy some files which is generally not a good sign. Once I have most of the data off I will do a scan+remap with MHDD and see what gives.
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Yeah, wasn't arguing that the drive might fail, was just pointing out that usually data doesn't just disappear in my experience ;) Would rather be unreadable... But then again, I haven't experienced that sort of failure in Linux or BSD as yet (because I only use Linux now and then and BSD on my NAS which has RAID-z) and I don't use Mac.

adrianx said:
Take2 rejected my "returns request" today. According to their suppliers, there is nothing wrong with my hard drive (Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB ST3500418AS). The hard drive itself (S.M.A.R.T.) doesn't agree, though!

First, it reported 67 reallocated sectors and the following day 72. Of course it still works, but for how long? I just hope it fails "properly" before the so-called 3 year warranty expires.
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Ouch. I see you are a Linux user, if the drive is on it's way out you can easy cause it to relocate more bad sectors (therefore quicker failure).
Just do: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=4096
Naturally where /dev/sda is the drive in question (eg. /dev/hda, /deb/sdb, drive designations can be found doing a sudo fdisk -l). You probably know all those commands anyway but yeah just posted them anyway. It'll fill up the drive with zeros (all data lost) which I've found exposes bad sectors very quickly, also causes all bad sectors to be relocated.

It is normal for a drive to relocate a certain number of sectors tho, if there was a head crash however a large amount of sectors will be relocated in a short period of time and the drive will fail in no time. If it isn't a head crash could just be a few bad sectors that were there for a long time but were only detected because of large file accesses, format, etc.

Don't think they'll authorize a swap out without an actual S.M.A.R.T fault or other significant failure.
 
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Okay, so anyone know who distributes Hitachi drives in the country?

Edit: nm, I see it's Pinnacle.
 
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