Samsung QLED vs LG OLED

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Samsung QLED vs LG OLED

Samsung recently launched its new QLED TVs in South Africa, which includes its first 8K consumer QLED TV.

These QLED 2019 TVs offer superior colour depth, contrast, and picture quality compared to other displays and include a number of high-end features.

 

[Dan C]

8k ...

 

[km2]

What a great choice of items to list on the comparison tables.

Include all the things that are the same between the TVs and then leave out the areas where there are differences (peak brightness, contrast ratio, HDR formats, HDMI version support, integrated sound).

 

[SynergyZA]

Agree with km2's post.
The article creates the perception that a Q60R compares well to an Oled, but is much cheaper. In reality, the basic B9 blows most of the Qled TVs out of the water in most viewing scenarios, even the expensive ones. Without a substantial number of dimming zones, an LCD panel does not come close to Oled. All of these Qled TVs have bad discoloration at off centre viewing angles. Etc.

 

[Dolby]

... the basic B9 blows most of the Qled TVs out of the water .... LCD panel does not come close to Oled.

I was in the market for either one or the other - and comments like yours made me think I'd be seeing something like I've never, ever seen before in my life with OLED. I expected holographic images and seriously WOW pictures ... compared to the dull and grey QLED.

Have you ever actually compared them side by side?

 

[Lupus]

I was in the market for either one or the other - and comments like yours made me think I'd be seeing something like I've never, ever seen before in my life with OLED. I expected holographic images and seriously WOW pictures ... compared to the dull and grey QLED.

Have you ever actually compared them side by side?

Probably not, like remember that previous tech that could also get deeper blacks, suffered from burn in, used more power, was touted as the best of the best... Can't seem to place my finger on it's name now.

 

[Leetoza]

I have a B8 Oled and a Q80R. Black levels, can't beat the Oled, but as long as you go Q70 or higher, you are getting a full array (this specsheet article should actually tell you that), with differing levels of dimming zones as you go Q80 and Q90. I was happy with the Q80R (other than I hate the one connect box they ship with it) and it including better than ever off-axis viewing for a QLED (Q80 and Q90). I have the QLED in my lounge with lots of natural light and it's great there. The issue as I see it is the Q80 series are good options even if you are picky like I am, at pretty much half the price of the same size Oled. Is a 77 Oled twice as good as a 75 Q80R? Nope.

Ps. You are thinking about Plasma.

 

[Leetoza]

Agree with km2's post.
The article creates the perception that a Q60R compares well to an Oled, but is much cheaper. In reality, the basic B9 blows most of the Qled TVs out of the water in most viewing scenarios, even the expensive ones. Without a substantial number of dimming zones, an LCD panel does not come close to Oled. All of these Qled TVs have bad discoloration at off centre viewing angles. Etc.

BTW, If you are in the market for a new panel, I really recommend you have a look at the 2019 qleds. My biggest gripe on the display I replaced was torching. The q70 80 and 90 have gone a long way in fixing that, with the 90 having the most zones, but the 90 is the same price as the old 9 series 75. Other than peak brightness, the q80 is pretty much last year's 9 series (full array etc) at half the price.

 

[km2]

I was in the market for either one or the other - and comments like yours made me think I'd be seeing something like I've never, ever seen before in my life with OLED. I expected holographic images and seriously WOW pictures ... compared to the dull and grey QLED.

Have you ever actually compared them side by side?

I have an LG B8 and if you put me directly in front of a TV in a well-lit room, I would struggle to reliably tell you if it was OLED or QLED. I certainly struggle when looking at them running their demo content on a Dions show floor. Maybe back in the years when PostmanPot was preaching the benefits of plasma that then LCD black levels were bad enough for it to jump out.

I feel like you have to be using it in a dark-ish room or with off-axis viewing to have the OLED "wow" moment.

 

[Wasabee!]

Imagine SABC in 8K.

 

[SynergyZA]

I was in the market for either one or the other - and comments like yours made me think I'd be seeing something like I've never, ever seen before in my life with OLED. I expected holographic images and seriously WOW pictures ... compared to the dull and grey QLED.

Have you ever actually compared them side by side?

Have not compared 2019 sets side by side no, but 2018 yes. Looking back at the pricing, the Q7F was priced the same as the B8. And it is a no-brainer when having to choose between edge-lit or OLED. Where the QLED wins is brightness and image processing for sure. I guess as km2 suggested, dark room viewing makes a big difference (my set up). Also don't watch sport or DStv in general, so image processing is handled by my source.
PS. I have been using a Plasma since 2013 with an average of 30+ hours a week use with no burn-in. So I believe it is a non-issue for majority of people, just like LCD ghosting

BTW, If you are in the market for a new panel, I really recommend you have a look at the 2019 qleds. My biggest gripe on the display I replaced was torching. The q70 80 and 90 have gone a long way in fixing that, with the 90 having the most zones, but the 90 is the same price as the old 9 series 75. Other than peak brightness, the q80 is pretty much last year's 9 series (full array etc) at half the price.

Certainly interesting to notice (having look at rtings.com) that the Q70R has full array back lighting. I believe that should be a minimum requirement for buying. Would be interesting when being faced with the choice and R50k in my pocket which it would be. Store demos are quite convincing.

 

[Leetoza]

Have not compared 2019 sets side by side no, but 2018 yes. Looking back at the pricing, the Q7F was priced the same as the B8. And it is a no-brainer when having to choose between edge-lit or OLED. Where the QLED wins is brightness and image processing for sure. I guess as km2 suggested, dark room viewing makes a big difference (my set up). Also don't watch sport or DStv in general, so image processing is handled by my source.
PS. I have been using a Plasma since 2013 with an average of 30+ hours a week use with no burn-in. So I believe it is a non-issue for majority of people, just like LCD ghosting



Certainly interesting to notice (having look at rtings.com) that the Q70R has full array back lighting. I believe that should be a minimum requirement for buying. Would be interesting when being faced with the choice and R50k in my pocket which it would be. Store demos are quite convincing.

So we apparently aren't getting the Q70R in 75" in SA. That might turn out to change, but the thing I wanted was reasonable black levels without torching or clouding (still get a little bit of bleed in the zone with white on black, and I didn't want to spring 130k for the c9 77.) I think if they do bring the Q70 75, that's going to be a very attractive price.

 

[SynergyZA]

So we apparently aren't getting the Q70R in 75" in SA. That might turn out to change, but the thing I wanted was reasonable black levels without torching or clouding (still get a little bit of bleed in the zone with white on black, and I didn't want to spring 130k for the c9 77.) I think if they do bring the Q70 75, that's going to be a very attractive price.

I am with you there. If we can get a size up for the same money with reasonable performance, I would go for it to. Lets hold thumbs

 

[ArmatageShanks]

What a great choice of items to list on the comparison tables.

Include all the things that are the same between the TVs and then leave out the areas where there are differences (peak brightness, contrast ratio, HDR formats, HDMI version support, integrated sound).

Think of the article as a advertisement, then it'll make sense the way it was written.

 

[Leetoza]

Think of the article as a advertisement, then it'll make sense the way it was written.

If guys are buying tvs based on how many HDMI and if it has a 3.5mm headphone jack, then it's a great advertisement / article.

 

[Snappie24]

I have an LG 3D UHD OLED tv. Nothing of Samsung comes close to the superior image, it is a joke for me that every 6 months they come with a "breakthrough".

LG is the only brand that got the 3D right because of the OLED. People like Samsung etc killed 3D because of their poor execution thereof, causing eyes to hurt etc.

My biggest problem is replacing this fantastic tv one day when I have to.

 

[Leetoza]

Dunno about that pal, LG were equally on the hype train about 3d and every display of theirs that I had had terrible crosstalk. I think the market appetite for 3d in general was limited.

 

[ZuluKing]

No HDMI 2.1 means no buy! LG is using the exact same OLED panel from 2018 just added HDMI 2.1 with earc. I want Big Format Gaming Display which will be future proof for next years second generation 8K 4xNavi chip and PS5 & Xbox2. Waiting for 8K with HDMI 2.1 and 8K prices to to come down to 4K prices. 8K is already on sale with prices only slightly more expensive than new 4K.

 

[Dolby]

Have not compared 2019 sets side by side no, but 2018 yes

I haven't compared the 2019 models either - but when I compared the 2017 QLED (Q7F), there wasn't a massive eye watering difference. Like I said, my expectation was exactly as you described based on the comments I'd seen .... and I really expected angels to dance on my retinas. I thought I'd never be able to view a normal TV again once I'd seen OLED magic ... but none of that was true.

I was then given a myriad of excuses as to why there was no 'magic' ... wrong content ... lights ... incorrect settings ... incorrect temperature lights ... reflections. In general though, didn't see the below at all.

In reality, the basic B9 blows most of the Qled TVs out of the water ... expensive ones .... does not come close to Oled

Yes - the black is fantastic on the OLED (0cd/m2) ... but the QLED was just 0.044cd/m2. QLED also has better colour volume, better colour gamut, better peak brightness and just delivered the more vivid and punchier image on screen. And image retention on OLED is a real worry, as I do tend to game.

I also found it really depended on the scene / content - if you're watching Dark Knight in a dark theater environment, I tend to agree with you on fairly large (relative) difference. But average content, in an average lounge with average people watching - it's not really as large as people think.

Looking back at the pricing, the Q7F was priced the same as the OLD back then (R40,000+) - but on this particular day, they were running the set @ R29,950. As much as wanted to tell people I had shiny new OLED, I could not justify the difference (and I'm one of those that can justify most gadgets

And regarding the OneConnect box - that was another one of my reasons for choosing the QLED I think's fantastic to wall mount and never need to go around back!

 

[km2]

Think of the article as a advertisement, then it'll make sense the way it was written.

But who are they selling out to? This is not putting Samsung or LGs best foot forward.

If this was some kind of native advertising plant by Samsung I would expect to see the talking points straight from the Samsung Review Guide. I would expect banging on about the incredible peak brightness of QLED, how you can only experience "true HDR" when you're exceeding 1000 nits etc. They don't mention peak brightness once.

If it was for LG I would see them going in hard on the inky blacks of OLED, or if it was just trying to take the wind out of Samsung's sails, talk about the upcoming LG 2019 lineup.

I suspect the reality is far more boring. The author got a trip to the Samsung launch event a month ago and in return he needed to file a certain number of articles. He's not terribly clued up on TVs, rpm is riding his ass for filler Sunday content, and this is what comes out.

Like with so many (far more important) issues in South Africa I wish I could say it was some kind of big-brained corruption scheme, but it's just people bumbling along.