Samsung's ecosystem

[backstreetboy]

LED burn in? How is the Samsung Remote doing?

Still great. Using the Xiaomi remote now though.
Edit: https://www.samsung.com/levant/supp...uch less susceptible than,borders, logos, etc.)

Although much less susceptible than Plasma TVs, LED TVs are still subject to screen burn in (image retention).

 

[Park@82]

There is no "Samsung to Apple equivalent". They are not in the same league.

Yes sure Apple does a lot of things better. And there are useful things my Samsung/Huawei can so that your iPhone can't.

 

[epah]

Yes sure Apple does a lot of things better. And there are useful things my Samsung/Huawei can so that your iPhone can't.

Like sideloading apps? Yeah no thanks.

 

[Park@82]

Like sideloading apps? Yeah no thanks.

Like zooming into my kids face while he is on stage in a school concert.

Or wild animals. Good zoom is really useful to me.

 

[RedViking]

All of my Samsung items were way less expensive than the equivalent Apple products.

I also love Xiaomi though and have way more Xiaomi products than Samsung.

I won't say I love Xiaomi. But I do prefer it. Hopefully the market grows for their product. Its a bit on the cheap side and some issues with firmware. But I rather get Xiaomi than Samsung which is very expensive in comparison and the price not justified. It is definitely cheaper than Apple, but I'll rather pay more for Apple than going Samsung.

 

[Nicky_G]

Both the Buds Pro and Buds Live? Any reason why?

I was given the Buds live as a gift. When I ordered the S22, it was meant to come with the Buds Live which I was going to sell. However they sent me the Buds Pro instead. Tried the Buds Pro and liked it. I use both regularly. The Lives are more comfortable when sleeping on my pillow so those stay at my bedside. I use the Pros' at work etc.

 

[Nicky_G]

I have some Samsung stuff stored away as well that I don't use. DVD player, Galaxy watch pro 2, level u earphones, S2, Note 3, S4, , S5, S6, Tab 7.
I am comfortable using their products and have been lucky with zero defective stuff. I can put a sim into my S2 now and it will work flawlessly (I have tried it). I will not put other products down as I have not used them. I use what I am used to and what works for me.

 

[Dylan_G]

I was given the Buds live as a gift. When I ordered the S22, it was meant to come with the Buds Live which I was going to sell. However they sent me the Buds Pro instead. Tried the Buds Pro and liked it. I use both regularly. The Lives are more comfortable when sleeping on my pillow so those stay at my bedside. I use the Pros' at work etc.

Ahhh, you were the guy. I remember you getting the Pros. I hoped they made the same mistake with me. They didn't.

Any differences between the two in terms of audio quality and calls (microphone)?

The reason I ask is I still have my Buds Live, unopened. Was supposed to sell them, but never got around to it. I use the normal Buds and like them quite a bit.

 

[airborne]

Ahhh, you were the guy. I remember you getting the Pros. I hoped they made the same mistake with me. They didn't.

Any differences between the two in terms of audio quality and calls (microphone)?

The reason I ask is I still have my Buds Live, unopened. Was supposed to sell them, but never got around to it. I use the normal Buds and like them quite a bit.

I’ve had both, not much difference between the two just the buds pro had slightly better noise cancelling and audio quality. The Live won’t fit everyone’s ears but I did manage to jog with them twice and they never fell out but it did feel like they weren’t very secure. I eventually moved to the Buds2 which fit well and sound great.

 

[soulie]

nope zero aligence for me .tried xiaomi its terrible .apple is ok .just got my first samsung ever after 28 yrs of cellphones .not impressed either .a phone is a phone etc

 

[soulie]

I won't say I love Xiaomi. But I do prefer it. Hopefully the market grows for their product. Its a bit on the cheap side and some issues with firmware. But I rather get Xiaomi than Samsung which is very expensive in comparison and the price not justified. It is definitely cheaper than Apple, but I'll rather pay more for Apple than going Samsung.

interesting one Xiaomi watches are flawless , my wife has one but the phones the software sucks .

 

[Johnatan56]

Ahhh, you were the guy. I remember you getting the Pros. I hoped they made the same mistake with me. They didn't.

Any differences between the two in terms of audio quality and calls (microphone)?

The reason I ask is I still have my Buds Live, unopened. Was supposed to sell them, but never got around to it. I use the normal Buds and like them quite a bit.

Have worn both the buds live (my daily) and the buds pro (brother's pair), should have opened the live right at the beginning and worn them, they either fit your ears or don't (only I and my brother in my family can wear them, rest all have too small ears). For me it took a bit of getting used to, and also realize wing doesn't need to be the same on both, have the larger tip in one ear, default in the other, actually caused a bit of pain having it wrong and was on the verge of sending it back. Also check how you're supposed to insert, first horizontal, then twist up so they sit vertical, horizontal they'll cause pain after a while.

Pro has better audio quality and noise cancellation, buds live have all right to good audio (I would hazard that fit is going to be the most important factor for quality), noticeably better if enable noise cancellation, pretty much the same with most noise cancellation, often the mic is used in the earphone to then adjust the audio for ear shape/fit.

If outdoor, would near always pick the live as can turn off noise cancellation while there, and also prefer them for sports since not in ear canal. Have not managed to even shift the buds live while running, weights, jumping jacks, burpees, etc., but this will depend on your ear. Only disappointment, but this is for all bluetooth, is using with VR headset, the latency is just too high, haven't tried the pro, but assume the same, and on desktop as well, but there my over ears are fine with latency outside of competitive shooters (like 50-100ms, but was instantly noticeable on W10 when I wore my galaxy buds live and sis had discord open to the side with 3rd person speaking how I had a good half second delay, sometimes a little more.

 

[Nicky_G]

Ahhh, you were the guy. I remember you getting the Pros. I hoped they made the same mistake with me. They didn't.

Any differences between the two in terms of audio quality and calls (microphone)?

The reason I ask is I still have my Buds Live, unopened. Was supposed to sell them, but never got around to it. I use the normal Buds and like them quite a bit.

For me, I prefer the Pros. Sound quality is better. Fuller sound and better bass. If I am watching a movie alone, I use the Pros' via Bluetooth on TV with noise cancelling. No lag and it sounds awesome. No detailed sound.

 

[killerbyte]

Only came in here to cough and then I am out.

Nemesis!

 

[killerbyte]

Let me just say that I do not advocate being a fanboy.
I have had Samsung phones since the S9+ (then S20+ and now S22 Ultra), HTC used to be my favourite but then I got an iPhone 7 after my HTC One M9, and then I went to Samsung.
I got the Galaxy Watch as my first smartwatch, and was happy with it which is why I bought a Watch 4 from the US (cost me R4k, so I didn't feel it was too expensive).
I got the Buds 2 Pro (ordered from Takealot last night, collected at 2pm today) on special for R2799, which I thought was a good price (thank you to @Razzle1 for his epic price tracker plugin Scrapy). The ANC, multitouch controls, EQ (JBL Reflex earbuds had no EQ and no app) and integration with my S22U and GW4 also appealed to me.

So far I am happy. When I am not happy I will shop around and try something else.

 

[airborne]

Have worn both the buds live (my daily) and the buds pro (brother's pair), should have opened the live right at the beginning and worn them, they either fit your ears or don't (only I and my brother in my family can wear them, rest all have too small ears). For me it took a bit of getting used to, and also realize wing doesn't need to be the same on both, have the larger tip in one ear, default in the other, actually caused a bit of pain having it wrong and was on the verge of sending it back. Also check how you're supposed to insert, first horizontal, then twist up so they sit vertical, horizontal they'll cause pain after a while.

Pro has better audio quality and noise cancellation, buds live have all right to good audio (I would hazard that fit is going to be the most important factor for quality), noticeably better if enable noise cancellation, pretty much the same with most noise cancellation, often the mic is used in the earphone to then adjust the audio for ear shape/fit.

If outdoor, would near always pick the live as can turn off noise cancellation while there, and also prefer them for sports since not in ear canal. Have not managed to even shift the buds live while running, weights, jumping jacks, burpees, etc., but this will depend on your ear. Only disappointment, but this is for all bluetooth, is using with VR headset, the latency is just too high, haven't tried the pro, but assume the same, and on desktop as well, but there my over ears are fine with latency outside of competitive shooters (like 50-100ms, but was instantly noticeable on W10 when I wore my galaxy buds live and sis had discord open to the side with 3rd person speaking how I had a good half second delay, sometimes a little more.

That latency thing sucks, even just for video it can be a bit out.
Are there any buds with no noticeable latency, I’m assuming the Apple buds are probably zero latency?

 

[airborne]

Like zooming into my kids face while he is on stage in a school concert.

Or wild animals. Good zoom is really useful to me. View attachment 1434305

What phone took that?

 

[Johnatan56]

That latency thing sucks, even just for video it can be a bit out.
Are there any buds with no noticeable latency, I’m assuming the Apple buds are probably zero latency?

The AirPods actually have a slightly higher latency than most AAC/Aptx headphones, think it's around 300ms with normal AAC being 170-250m (I think Bose QC 35 II is 220ms).
Put your headset in the hands free mode for low latency while chatting, but generally normal SBC (windows 10) or AAC (windows 11) is going to be fine for calls since 0.2-0.3s audio delay is fine.
Something like aptX LL is <50ms (norm around 30ms) but requires a special antenna and stuff, so aptX adaptive is used more (also has better quality, around 80ms latency). Headsets like Momentum 3 support aptx LL, Momentum 4 has aptx adaptive support instead, and you'd use an adapter like Creative BT-W3 for aptx LL on windows, and can use Creative BT-W4. QC AptX and Sony LDAC won't be built into Windows due to licensing, same with Samsung's "Scalable Codec" (great naming).

The change to AAC in Windows 11 is actually one of the major reasons to upgrade if you use BT headphones, but it all depends on hardware implementation as well, in my case the quality improved on my one laptop, but don't notice a difference on another PC, wouldn't be able to tell the latency difference, while my buds live kept having issues in W11 (which is now gone since the latest update, and they finally added a better quick select for BT devices again via win+a > right side of BT icon for quick select, still not as good as w10 win+k, but a lot better).

And also, LC3 will not have a noticeable impact on audio quality, it will instead be battery life since can operate at a lower power mode, but will depend, but rather the reduced latency is what is interesting, 7.5ms while LC3Plus should be 5ms, so should come close to wired (2-15ms).

 

[Dylan_G]

In terms of ecosystem, I saw a really cool video recently:

That bit at 08:30 about being able to share a Bluetooth speaker between devices, even if it's not multipoint, is amazing. That put some doubt into my wanting an iPad. Might spring for a Tab S7.

https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/samsung-flow/9NBLGGH5GB0M?hl=en-za&gl=za

Samsung Flow is a software product that enables a seamless, secure, connected experience across your devices. You can authenticate your tablet/PC with your smartphone, share content between devices, and sync notifications or view content from your smartphone on your tablet/PC. You can turn on the smartphone's Mobile hotspot to keep your tablet/PC connected. You can also sign in to your tablet/PC using your biometric data (your iris or fingerprint) if you register with Samsung Pass.


With Flow you can change devices in the midst of an activity or pause an activity until you're ready.

Transfer: Transferring an activity on the fly allows you to use the best device for the task at hand. Pick up right where you left off rather than starting from scratch on the new device.

Defer: Sometimes the right device is not immediately at hand, or there just isn't enough time to finish a task. Samsung Flow allows you to defer an activity and resume it when you're ready — moving activities across time as well as devices.

Task List: Flow's Task List provides a single place to track your deferred activities. Simply tap an activity to resume it, or swipe it away to remove it. Flow synchronizes your deferred activities across your devices when they're near each other.

 

[rh1]

Samsung TV and soundbar. The sound bar is still amazing for me but the TV has burn in after 6 years.
Edit: Also have a Samsung 23 inch LED monitor I got on the Dion Wired special in 2013. Use it on my Raspberry Pi and it's been one of my best purchases ever. Manufactured in SA as well. No burn in or anything.

I have a Samsung 2014 55inch tv. No burn in as yet. It is a 3d tv, though I lost the glasses many years ago.