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AntiThesis

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Heya :)

We're looking at getting SAP working in our locations here in SA (read: bosses insist that SAP must be done) but without being actually buying SAP for South Africa.

Currently the only plan there is is to connect to the SAP servers we have running in Germany (:( ) and run like that.

Anyone had any experience running over such a distance or have any advice/information about the speeds/lag or whether it's even doable?
 
From what I understand, it is doable, but probably shouldn't be done. (Access will allways be an issue). Connectivity to the SAP server/s depends on what type of SAP you are running. From what I understand (& my knowledge on SAP is limited), MySAP is a little easier on the response times.

You are probably going to need something that has an average round trip time of no greater than 300-400ms. I seem to think that most other SAP access has a prerequisite sub 250ms limit, but am not really sure here.

Your only way to get around the 300ms mark is to use a connectivity provider that uses fibre all the way... no satellite stuff here.

Hope this helps.

cheers
 
I don't thing I properly understand what you saying but when runninf SAP you will have servers locally and using some server sitting at SAP AG.

The best way to answer your question is to go to your SAP Specialist. He will be able to recommend the solution best to your situation. IOW contact SAP directly and speak to them and find a solution that way.
 
Heya :)

We're looking at getting SAP working in our locations here in SA (read: bosses insist that SAP must be done) but without being actually buying SAP for South Africa.

Currently the only plan there is is to connect to the SAP servers we have running in Germany (:( ) and run like that.

Anyone had any experience running over such a distance or have any advice/information about the speeds/lag or whether it's even doable?

What do you mean with "SAP must be done" - That in itself means that you are looking at hardware, software, licenses and implementation costs.

If your servers in Germany contains the configuration and implemented modules needed for the SA operations, and of course sufficient licenses, then you will be able to connect, but it will be p!ss slow.
 
That's pretty much it Landy. Other locations around the world are running SAP at the moment and someone has it in their head that we need to run it too. So yeah looks like it'll be hella slow but might just manage.
 
Anyone had any experience running over such a distance or have any advice/information about the speeds/lag or whether it's even doable?


It depends what exactly you "install" here. I know SAP have a whole web-enabled setup where you can sit and do stuff in IE all day...
It depends what exactly you plan to do on SAP [i.e. are just doing some budgeting and finances for head-office to consolidate vs. actually doing EVERYTHING on it]
Some prominent issues are:
a] If your internet goes down, entire company stands still
b] If they stole your Telkom Cables outside your premises, your company stands still [and the guys in germany don't give a crap, they expect results].
c] If you don't have a big connection it will be slow...add 200 users on the same line...super slow!!!. Actually screw that "big connection", this is South Africa, it will be slow AND expensive.


You should have some form of replication going on [again depending whether SAP is critical to your daily operations] i.e. a local DB which syncs with the Server at intervals. If server goes down, you still go on locally, if internet goes down you go on on your local LAN etc. Speed+Bandwidth is also not such an issue then.
-> But this means a full/proper implementation PLUS an integration/interface project.


Antithesis said:
That's pretty much it Landy. Other locations around the world are running SAP at the moment and someone has it in their head that we need to run it too. So yeah looks like it'll be hella slow but might just manage.

Well you mentioned Germany...that's SAP-motherland there. They absolutely refuse to use anything else, one of our clients have same thing..germans buy shares here, first thing that goes is the ERP system [unless it's already SAP] .
 
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SAP = Severe Agony and Pain ;)

We run a huge SAP implementation, hosted by T-Systems in Vienna for our SA operations and the response time is good. You pay a license fee per user, depending on what the user does i.e. processes transactions or only views information.
 
SAP software download (for training)

Hey Lanyman

Any idea where I can get my hands on SAP FI module for training? I'm mid-way through my course, and really want to get to grips with the actual software instead of only working on hardcopy manuals....

Anyway, any ideas, plse let me know.

Thanks

Jan

What do you mean with "SAP must be done" - That in itself means that you are looking at hardware, software, licenses and implementation costs.

If your servers in Germany contains the configuration and implemented modules needed for the SA operations, and of course sufficient licenses, then you will be able to connect, but it will be p!ss slow.
 
Jan,
If your company is an SAP Partner then you would be able to download and license an IDES ECC5 or IDES ECC6 system from Service Marketplace which would include FI/CO that you can learn on. You need to speak a Basis person for assitance in getting this done.
 
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