Seacom cable brings the rain

AG all I have to say is..
DIE TELKOM DIE!

All things being bad at least theres 2 undersea cables now and Telkom isnt the sole provider of International bandwidth any more. Theres a glint of hope.
 
wirelessvsadsl said:
international bandwidth could be $1 per meg but the local end pricing problem is the next issue its around $800-1200 + atm
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How much does the IP Connect product cost per meg roughly, and what sizes does it come in?

The questions is, how low can a very large isp realistically go using seacom in bulk, and where possible running on its own fiber, when telkom owns the last mile. As a community we should try roughly work this out.

We know for instance WebAfrica as built its own fiber network. Obviously we don;t really know how extensive it is, but it's perhaps worth guestimating the numbers.
 
Savrax said:
Does anyone know if any of the ISP's are offering Seacom only accounts?
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give them a chance man! :D

the little pixies are still being injected into the cable in France. It is gonna take at least a week for them to carry their packets all the way to South Africa.
 
I'm anxiously awaiting Neotel's announcement of 8Mb/s 200GB cap for R250/month, which is the kind of offer that would hit Telkom in its nether regions.

But it's not going to happen. Is it?
 
Seacom pricing

jak3 said:
How much does the IP Connect product cost per meg roughly, and what sizes does it come in?

The questions is, how low can a very large isp realistically go using seacom in bulk, and where possible running on its own fiber, when telkom owns the last mile. As a community we should try roughly work this out.

We know for instance WebAfrica as built its own fiber network. Obviously we don;t really know how extensive it is, but it's perhaps worth guestimating the numbers.
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If you atomize the cable over 20 year investment assuming that you have bought life time access upfront

you could be as low as $100 per meg assuming that you sell 100% of the capacity from day 1 and make 0 profit that is the cost

in reality it will be arroung $ 650 per meg with out local end
 
Does anyone know when we 'individuals' will expirience 'true broadband' since this 'underwater cable' has been 'switched on' because right now as i'm typing this my connection says 7.2 iv got full signal but all i get i get is frequent disconnects etc
 
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"I'm a barbie girl, in a barbie world. Life is plastic, it's fantastic!"

/end rant
 
AcidRaZor said:
Could you please inform all these "journalists" that Telkom already dropped their wholesale pricing a few months ago in direct competition to Seacom's pricing and that nobody has said a word about it yet? Nor reported on this? Or that this has already saved some companies a **** load of cash but that the consumer is still seeing nothing?
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Perhaps one good isn't enough to right all the wrongs that Telkom has done. Their monopoly has pretty much enslaved us to mediocre development.

I eagerly await the broadband revolution to start. I hope sooner rather than later.
 
Ok, I think everyone should stop asking for prices to come down but rather for caps and speeds to go up. It seems many isp's (yes iBurst I'm looking at you) use that excuse about how the base costs stay the same and that international bandwidth is only a fraction of the price. So the way I see it is that if all the base costs work out to be R230 and the rest of the R20 is used for international bandwidth just as a rough example, please note this is an example, please don't shoot me down for unrealistic prices, but that R 20 would buy me my 2GBs of bandwidth so now if the international cost of bandwidth has come down 90% and base costs stay the same that R20 used to buy my 2GB would now buy 20GB with all the base costs not changing much. Just my noobist view.
 
Viva Telkom

AcidRaZor said:
Could you please inform all these "journalists" that Telkom already dropped their wholesale pricing a few months ago in direct competition to Seacom's pricing and that nobody has said a word about it yet? Nor reported on this? Or that this has already saved some companies a **** load of cash but that the consumer is still seeing nothing?
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Telkom guys -- I feel your pain.

Let me point out the OBVIOUS -- WHERE are the ISP's on this forum.

WHY -- the deafening SILENCE from them -- WHY :confused:

So eassy :D to have someone to heap the blame on all the time, :(


MW
 
Well if the current ISP's are already tied into contracts...wouldn't now be the perfect time to create your own? You could get in now and undercut them all with your new cheap contract to Telkom (lol) for only the next 5 years (lol again). Just imagine calling everyone with your little flute at offers of uncapped internet on a 4 meg line at only R499 p/m!

Okay I'll head on back to sleep now; the place where I happily dream....
 
Because to get these "cheap" prices from Seacom you need to tie in on a 20 year contract with them. You're not going to get a cheap ISP that can afford that, and they cannot just go buy from Seacom - they need to buy through a reseller. And the reseller, guess what, is not going to pass the cheap price onto you.
 
Die telkom DIE!!! I'm so happy!! I hope telkom suffer. they have raped the consumer for to long!
 
wirelessvsadsl said:
If you atomize the cable over 20 year investment assuming that you have bought life time access upfront

you could be as low as $100 per meg assuming that you sell 100% of the capacity from day 1 and make 0 profit that is the cost

in reality it will be arroung $ 650 per meg with out local end
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I would really like to know your calculation methods. imo this is how it goes
cable is worth 600million USD so
600,000,000 / 20(years) = 30 million per year / 12(months) = 2.5Million per month.

now the cable has a capacity of 1.28TB = 1310.72Gbps = 1342177.28Mbps

2500000 (per month for full cable) / 1342177.28(Per Mbps price) = 1.86USD

Thats the way I work it out.

With the whole local story, I think its just a load of BS and all ISPs are just trying to pocket as much as possible b4 we start throwing rotten eggs in their direction, simple maths really, if I can get an IS 30GB account for R130 per month, that works out to R4.33per gig, our general international back then was R70 per gig, factoring in say R189 for one gig on 384 line, minus the R135 (for argument sake) line rental R54 goes into that gig of bandwidth,
since international has a local portion we will subtract R4.33 from that we get R49.67 as the total international cost, this has now been REDUCED by 90% which makes it R4.97 adding the local R4.33 gives us a wopping R9.30 per gig which means the initial bundle should now cost only R144.30

But then I guess they will find other ways to make that higher
 
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