SEACOM Uncapped Pricings for new ISP

this project looks brilliant. keep up the good work. if you just so happen to need an unqualified linux engineer to handle your routing/peering/servers/etc for good value, give me a shout =p
 
Sandman30s said:
Don't see why anyone would want to 'steal' an unregistered name? Anyway, doesn't matter really.
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Big money...

I have come across forums that mention GoDaddy spiders crawling the web.

They snatch names typed into domain checkers by everyone, everywhere, anytime.

These then go through algorithms and the names considered to have "value" for resale, are purchased by GoDaddy, and posted for sale.
 
Wildfire is a piercing and tattoo parlour in Cape Town lol
 
Summary of requirements... http://www.population.org.za/section21companies.htm

Fast registration, +-5weeks... https://www.kaltan.co.za/kcci/n/3-section21-sa-order.php

Or register yourself with http://www.cipro.co.za/registration_forms/reg_forms.asp

You need to download and complete the following forms:

CM3, CM4, CM5, CM22, CM29, CM31, CM44B and CM44C.

There will only be a R350 and R50 cost involved for two of the forms.

I spoke to an attorney about registering the NPO ISP. We can all send our personal details to the attorney with the R350 + R50 for the forms, with all the forms as complete as possible.

I asked if it would cost about a thousand or two, for them to simply collate the member info onto the forms and the send off the forms.

He said it would not cost nearly as much. Hundreds in other words. So, you may not want to pay R3000 to rush it.
 
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killadoob said:
That makes no sense in all honesty because who is stupid enough to pay 400 for 40g and not 500 rand for uncapped :D
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Exactly... Using A..ess price for an int. gig is around R69ea... Ergo 40GB - R2760...
Price for 20GB (on 6.6) Prepaid R1100 (mtm R900). And so on...
Current best price for uncapped (ignoring fibre vs satellite and a reasonable speed) between R800-R1000...

Even at those prices there is no way in hell I am buying 20-40GB over uncapped.

I can get 40GB on a 384 if I go flat out all month after the threshold (only getting 60% of the line capability). Giving me - R30/GB (on my harddrive).

(this is assuming that 384kb = 48KB and 60% of that is 28.8 and 24 hours in a day, blah,blah...And I am not all thumbs)
 
In case anyone's wondering if this project has fallen off the face of the earth, I'm meeting with SEACOM to get a quote from them as well (they're very busy so only meeting in two week's time). Apologies to anyone whom I've promised to message; I've been too busy. Will try to message you this weekend. So watch this space - an ISP is coming, even if it kills me in the process!
 
*speed subject to fair use policy

Just to stop those heavy downloaders. Allthough the fair use policy must be reasonable.

for exaple exeeding 40GB in 24 hours or something like that. Cause it will be cheaper than all the current offers anyway. So even with a "kinda harsh fair use policy it won't be unreasonable and users will still be happy.
 
Fair use policy worries me a bit....

I have read guys complaining about downloaders but then saying 24/7 use of YouTube should be 100% ok. Now forgive me if I am ignorant here but would streaming video non-stop not equate to similar use to downloading off newsservers etc?

Bear in mind I am currently using a 384k line. I understand that on a 4Mb line you would be downloading a lot more than you would be streaming...

On this note, will all these new ISPs have access to news servers?
 
LancelotSA said:
On this note, will all these new ISPs have access to news servers?
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I think initially, given that the international bandwidth will be cheap, that will free up some of your budget to pay for giganews or whatever your preference is.

If, down the line there are lots of clients, one of the things I have in mind is to entice someone like giganews to either have a local server, or offer a discount to South Africans - with us marketing them as the preferential news server etc. Bear is mind this is WAY down the line.
 
Please dont forget to add the local IPConnect Prices into your calculations... so far this thread only indicates the international portion.
you would need to have IPConnect to be able to feed the adsl clients

local capacity is generally 3 Local to 1 International so to ensure good browsing speeds and also the contention of users are not more than 20:1 on local
 
Bit late to the party, but I'll +1 that minimum speed should be watching youtube without interruptions.

I'll +1 that high usage cap would be great. The thing about uncapped is that if you are paying a premium for the service you feel compelled to use it. For instance I have the virgin unlimited sms package. I only send about 200 sms's a month. If I felt like I was paying a real premium for this service, I'm sure I'd do my best to send a 1000 each month. Its the same overseas where everyone is uncapped. Obviously not everyone is a torrent uber-leech, they'd mostly fall into the 10-50GB usage area. Thats the way I really want to be able to use my internet.
 
What do you propose for last mile ? Sorry that is almost as much as the international portion - quite shocking

Telkom does read these forums - hopefully at the next exco meeting something worthwhile will be offered to ISP's
where they can reduce the IPConnect charges unless of course you provide your own last mile via a WiSP or $$$ DSL.
 
OK many emails and a few meetings later, I'm a lot more educated, and sorry to say - bitter again about the broadband situation in this country, which takes me back to where I started thinking about the ISP months ago. Actually, nine years ago, but that's another story.

This is my last major post to this thread, because the title is misleading. Uncapped or high cap bandwidth has nothing to do with seacom. A certain cynical 'solutions architect' I spoke to told me that seacom is just a piece of string, and I'm welcome to pay big moolah for it, but the string is connected at both ends... one end is the european landing which is an ISP in London, and you have to pay them for usage of their network. You see, the string ends there, and the rest of the world connects from that London ISP. Then you've gotta pay for usage of a local network which is the other end of that string - unless you got a few billion or so to spare for setting up your own network... so neotel-quoted prices are actually misleading and ISP's have to probably double those amounts to get to realistic figures...

Which brings me to Neotel's offering. They spent 10 billion on their wireless network, and the best they can offer in that space is R299 for 1.5G, which is HARDLY the way I want to go. So it's back to Telkom and the local loop crap for DSL - so if I want to offer a high cap DSL service, I will have to buy NETWORK (not seacom) capacity from Neotel, IS or Telkom. Which sadly takes me back to square one. Seacom is just pie in the sky and empty promises. ISP's are desperately trying to sell their excess pieces of string at a loss, and guess who's buying it back? No prizes here.

Also, it seems I was beaten by an established company Afrihost - I was thinking if 10 gigs at around R200 anyway, but that will be under cost. The only other option is reselling (buying real estate rack space at a teleco) but then I would be like fifty other ISP's out there. When I have more information, I will open another thread. In the mean time, the investigation goes on. Guys, let's keep the information flowing...

Education plants the seed,
Freedom and Sharing of Information grows the tree,
Economic Growth is the fruit.

Come on Telkom, let us all enjoy the fruit!!!

PS/ Afrihost CEO - nice to see you on these forums!
 
Seacom connecting Africa to the world*
*via an expensive London-based ISP

Thanks for trying, too bad it didn't work out!
 
Sandman30s said:
He showed me the SEACOM pricing - which costs approximately R1.5 million per month for a 155 mbit pipe and fixed line. Sandman
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wrong actually - The price for an STM-64 connection, supplying 9.6 Gbps of bandwidth, is $ 1 663 875 or R 267-00 per Mbps per month. The price per Mbps per month for a STM-1 (155 Mbps) service is R 673-00 while a STM-4 (600 Mbps) connection costs R 575-00 and a STM-16 (2.5 Gbps) service will cost R 435-00.

from http://forum.gardenroute.com/showthread.php?t=1167

their official prices, its R 104 315 for a 155mb/s line or R673 per mb/s per month thats 673x155 = 104 315

so your calculations need a little editing
 
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