Security Encryption Standards TKIP & AES

[Geoff.D]

Hi guys. I have been confronted with numerous issues keeping older printers ( mostly HP printers) working when people migrate or upgrade alternative OS's or upgrades to their OS's.

The Issue seems to be that older printers just simply stop communicating with networks, routers, even direct cable connections to PCs and laptops after upgrades.

One of the issues I got confronted with which has pushed me into unknown territory is when I discovered one solution to these issues is to change the security settings from "AES" to "TKIP + AES" on a router. (for an older model HP printer).

Now my reading so far has revealed the differences between "AES" and "TKIP" so that is not the problem.
The question I have for someone to help with is what does a setting of "TKIP + AES" actually mean?
Does it mean that a router will handle "TKIP" and "AES" devices?
Does this in some way compromise the security of a wi-fi router?
Why would a printer that is supposed to be able to detect and accept either TKIP or AES, refuse to work, unless the router is set to "TKIP + AES"

Thanks in advance.

 

[SauRoNZA]

It basically means it supports both.

Essentially it’s a compatibility mode to fix exactly the problem you are having.

AES is better on paper but in reality you aren’t going to find much of a tangible difference.

 

[Geoff.D]

So far, I have noticed a slowing down of performance of the Telkom router connected to my fibre service.

As soon as I have sorted out its printer issue, I will definitely be reverting back to only AES.

 

[RonSwanson]

Why are you printing through a router? And if security meant that much, why are you connecting your printer via wifi?

 

[Geoff.D]

Why are you printing through a router? And if security meant that much, why are you connecting your printer via wifi?

I don't want to use a Wi-fi connection to the printer at all. I am trying to set the printer up as a network printer.
The stupid setup routine for most HP consumer printers is so damn pathetic, that once the first setup has ever been done, most often with a USB cable direct to a single PC, it is virtually impossible to make any changes without first activating a wi-fi connection.
These printers can handle a maximum of 2 printer interfaces. Wi-Fi and either USB or LAN.
Changing the network connection method from USB to LAN requires access to the printer config via Wi-Fi to sort this out.

 

[Rickster]

I don't want to use a Wi-fi connection to the printer at all. I am trying to set the printer up as a network printer.
The stupid setup routine for most HP consumer printers is so damn pathetic, that once the first setup has ever been done, most often with a USB cable direct to a single PC, it is virtually impossible to make any changes without first activating a wi-fi connection.
These printers can handle a maximum of 2 printer interfaces. Wi-Fi and either USB or LAN.
Changing the network connection method from USB to LAN requires access to the printer config via Wi-Fi to sort this out.

Get a USB to ethernet print server.

 

[Geoff.D]

Get a USB to ethernet print server.

Ja I see that this is the easy way out chosen by most people.
The printer was bought from Incredible Corruption by an SMME.
The business is no more and I got it for R 50.00

Trying to register it with HP, and then you find out it is a grey product.
The serial number indicates it was destined for the Asian market.
HP are not at all helpful as a result.
Printers are the very first IoT devices and they are and have always been a pain in the arse to set up regardless of the make.
Researching the subject on the Internet shows up thousands of people all over the World moaning about the same basic things.
Can't restore defaults, can't access the service menus, can't change the connectivity, can't get Wi-Fi to work, can't load the original sw on newer OSs for older printers.

 

[Rocket-Boy]

Ja I see that this is the easy way out chosen by most people.
The printer was bought from Incredible Corruption by an SMME.
The business is no more and I got it for R 50.00

Trying to register it with HP, and then you find out it is a grey product.
The serial number indicates it was destined for the Asian market.
HP are not at all helpful as a result.
Printers are the very first IoT devices and they ate and have always been a pain in the are to set up regardless of the make.
Researching the subject on the Internet shows up thousands of people all over the World moaning about the same basic things.
Can't restore defaults, can't access the service menus, can't change the connectivity, can't get with fi to work, can't load the original sw on newer OSs for older printers.

I eventually resorted to print servers for those issues.
The print servers work a charm and mostly just function over LPD.

Im so happy that I dont deal with anything desktop related anymore, printers were the worst.

 

[|tera|]

Geoff, give each printer a static IP.
You should be able to reserve it on your Router.

Test and see if there's a difference.

 

[Geoff.D]

Geoff, give each printer a static IP.
You should be able to reserve it on your Router.

Test and see if there's a difference.

Yes, I would like to do that. BUT before I can, I need the damn thing to communicate via the LAN interface.