Self determination

EADC said:
You sound more like you don't like the fact that you can't openly racist anymore.
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I hardly speak to one of my neighbours. I respect his privacy. I won't go out of my way to upset him. I believe he's doing the same. Anything he wants to do on the shared wall, he notifies me. He hosts his braais freely without anyone bothering him, as well as his weed. Isn't that what you'd call coexistence? :)
 
EADC said:
You sound more like you don't like the fact that you can't openly racist anymore.
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Why the assumption that I'm racist? That in itself is racist you know.

I honestly don't care who has what feelings, my problem is disingenuous systematic discrimination on both governmental and social level against a racial minority in the name of inclusivity.... does not matter what which group is on which end.

On the other hand I believe that everyone should have the freedom to in all ways choose who they want to interact with or none of us have real freedom anyway. You cannot pick and choose who has what freedom while at the same time preporting to be for freedom for all.
 
ForceFate said:
Why?
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Excluding someone based on their race, culture or religion would get you labeled racist.

Lets for argument's sake say a bunch of strangers meet at the beach, sun's going down and I say hey let's all go to my house for drinks and a braai but ForceFate you're not welcome at my house. You give me the "Why?" and I say I don't like to associate with black people (or jews etc, insert whatever you want here). Someone records this interaction and posts it online.

You telling me there will be no shitstorm and I won't get hounded, receive threats & get fired from work?
 
noxibox said:
Those all consist of big groups.
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Ok let's roll with that. There are more white/boer/afrikaans speaking people in SA than the combined population of lesotho & swaziland, throw in the ones for namibia and you have even more.

Where does that leave your argument?
 
EADC said:
The difference is I don't close myself off to race or culture, If you want to only associate with people that look like you talk like you that's up to you but keep it only in your personal capacity.
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What you choose is irrelevant, what others choose to do is their business and theirs alone.
 
Even the San and Khoisan want to be independent and picketing at the Union Buildings since last year.

One statement that stands out is:

Ultimatum of independence
On Friday, Chief Khoisan SA also repeated his ultimatum to Ramaphosa: met their demands or the Khoisan people will declare independence from South Africa.

Link
 
Interesting. FakeNews campaign against Orania by the lying fsckrs at eNCA and publicised far & wide.

Orania appealed for support, received it and won the appeal. But, no coverage in the media. Nothing at all.
 
thechamp said:
What happened now?
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Might have to do with when the enca election bus visited orania, they did a tour of the place and stayed over. The one enca guy on the ground was talking to the guy in the studio and when they closed off the studio guy added some lies in his closing contrary to the truth and what the guys on the ground experienced.

Might be related to this or not, dunno.
 
ponder said:
Ok let's roll with that. There are more white/boer/afrikaans speaking people in SA than the combined population of lesotho & swaziland, throw in the ones for namibia and you have even more.

Where does that leave your argument?
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Supports my argument entirely. Yet another big group.

konfab said:
Actually you couldn't do that since 1976.

https://www.politicsweb.co.za/opinion/the-kword-legally-actionable-since-1976
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Didn't really stop the police using the term though.
 
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